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Originally posted by jenson75
May I know what do you think of Charles Swindoll?
Here in London, I listen to him (almost) every morning, as Premier Radio (a exceedingly broad "christian" station) broadcast his programme at 6am, when I wake up. Would you recommend/endorse him?
Originally posted by Me Died Blue
He is definitely Dispensational, and a promoter of the church-growth phenomenon, not to mention that the Evangelical Free Churches are largely Arminian. I guess I just don't understand why a Reformed believer would want to spend time reading him for personal growth when there is such a mass of first-rate Puritan and Reformed writings we'll never be able to get through as it is.
Originally posted by Me Died Blue
He is definitely Dispensational, and a promoter of the church-growth phenomenon, not to mention that the Evangelical Free Churches are largely Arminian.
Originally posted by Scot
I remember reading on a Jonathan Edwards site that Swindoll believed that faith comes before regeneration. It was a challenge to him and those at DTS about their statement of faith.
He may say he believes in election but has anyone heard him talk about faith and regeneration? Does he believe that faith comes before or after?
Originally posted by Average Joey
Is Chuck Swindoll reformed?Vernon McGee was reformed but "WAS" a dispensationalist.
Originally posted by puritancovenanter
Originally posted by Average Joey
Is Chuck Swindoll reformed?Vernon McGee was reformed but "WAS" a dispensationalist.
I took a trip on the old Bible bus with McGee. I listened to him for years while I did the dishes after dinner along with Lester Roloff. (however you spell Roleoff). McGee definitely wasn't reformed. He even believed Jesus was still trying to get Judas to come unto him after the betrayal. Jesus was unsuccessful. McGee was a Presbyterian at one time. Darby and Scofield just got to him.
As far as Swindoll goes.... He is back and forth. Sometimes he sounds like one who believes in Irrestible Grace then at other times he says God would never impose His will upon another because He is a gentleman. I just say ask old King Neb and St. Paul. That should answer the question.
[Edited on 6-16-2005 by puritancovenanter]
Originally posted by pastorway
Swindoll believes and preaches election! Have you heard his sermon on Romans 9? Quite good.
He is very practical, teaching that if you believe it you live it! Sound doctrine produces right living.
I love to listen to him and am very encouraged by his preaching. He takes tough theological concepts and makes them very easy to understand and to communicate to others. Don't get me wrong, I also like to hear more "theological" preachers, but Swindoll is a refreshing breeze at times, showing where that theology leads in living! It isn't just what you know, but who you are in Christ that matters.
Also, while he has a large church I have never equated him with the church growth movement. His books are hit and miss.
Phillip
[Edited on 6-16-05 by pastorway]
Originally posted by Average Joey
Originally posted by puritancovenanter
Originally posted by Average Joey
Is Chuck Swindoll reformed?Vernon McGee was reformed but "WAS" a dispensationalist.
I took a trip on the old Bible bus with McGee. I listened to him for years while I did the dishes after dinner along with Lester Roloff. (however you spell Roleoff). McGee definitely wasn't reformed. He even believed Jesus was still trying to get Judas to come unto him after the betrayal. Jesus was unsuccessful. McGee was a Presbyterian at one time. Darby and Scofield just got to him.
As far as Swindoll goes.... He is back and forth. Sometimes he sounds like one who believes in Irrestible Grace then at other times he says God would never impose His will upon another because He is a gentleman. I just say ask old King Neb and St. Paul. That should answer the question.
[Edited on 6-16-2005 by puritancovenanter]
But,I have heard several sermons where he said he is a calvinist.That he believed in election.
Originally posted by puritancovenanter
Originally posted by Average Joey
Originally posted by puritancovenanter
Originally posted by Average Joey
Is Chuck Swindoll reformed?Vernon McGee was reformed but "WAS" a dispensationalist.
I took a trip on the old Bible bus with McGee. I listened to him for years while I did the dishes after dinner along with Lester Roloff. (however you spell Roleoff). McGee definitely wasn't reformed. He even believed Jesus was still trying to get Judas to come unto him after the betrayal. Jesus was unsuccessful. McGee was a Presbyterian at one time. Darby and Scofield just got to him.
As far as Swindoll goes.... He is back and forth. Sometimes he sounds like one who believes in Irrestible Grace then at other times he says God would never impose His will upon another because He is a gentleman. I just say ask old King Neb and St. Paul. That should answer the question.
[Edited on 6-16-2005 by puritancovenanter]
But,I have heard several sermons where he said he is a calvinist.That he believed in election.
Every denomination and theological persuasion has a doctrine of election. They differ in when does God do the electing. Did he do it based upon seeing a persons faith in the future or did God elect them based upon His sovereign will and not based upon anything within them.
Others claim to be Calvinist...3 pointers...3.5 pointers...4 pointers... 4.5 pointers.....5 pointers....take your pick. I personally don't believe you can be anything less than a 5 pointer logically.
[Edited on 6-17-2005 by puritancovenanter]
Originally posted by OS_X
or some Progressive Dispensational folks (like I used to be) who are fully Calvinistic as well.