Puritan Board Doctor
This is all I have know of Billy Graham. Did he say the opposite in his younger years?No one is denying that Graham said these things. I am simply pointing out that the first statement is when he is 80 and in the second he is 87 (it should also be noted that by this time he is being treated for fluid on the brain, parkinsons, and prostate cancer. Obviously his health is not top notch which will affect mental capacity). Is Dr. Graham wrong for saying these things? Absolutely. Should Dr. Graham be labeled a heretic? Absolutely not.
there are problems of sin and habit that cannot be solved outside the person of our Lord Jesus Christ.
This shows that his mental capacity is not there. He forgot he had a fourth brain surgery.The biggest problem I have is hydrocephalus, which is too much fluid on the brain, and they discovered that about four or five years ago at Mayo's, and they operated to put a stent in, but it didn't go right. And I had to have three -- four operations in the brain.
But Jesus made this astounding claim. Jesus said: I am the truth. Jesus said, I am the truth! I am the embodiment of all truth. And if you're going to get to heaven, you've got to believe that.
Yeah that makes sense.KING: You've see so many changes in a life well-lived. One of the biggest must have been the change of the church and the black.
KING: The American black -- television -- I mean black person. Your church. Other churches.
Nigerian, Nicene same thing.GRAHAM: Both, I think that it's both. It brings people together around one faith around they're (INAUDIBLE), Nigerian creed -- not the Nigerian, I'm getting mixed up. But it's a creed thing that we all believe in and follow from different, different religious groups -- the Nicene Creed is what I am trying to say.
KING: But -- your Franklin once said, he was very critical of Islam. He called it evil and wicked. How did you react to that?
GRAHAM: Well, he has my views and I have mine
So we can see that Dr. Graham says some very good things in that interview, but also some things that shows he is easily confused.It's Christ who died on the cross, who rose again, who's coming again, that offers you salvation free.
Are you saying that throughout his entire life he advocated an inclusive view of Christ and a somewhat pluralistic view of salvation?This is all I have know of Billy Graham. Did he say the opposite in his younger years?
He was Arminian his entire life. His pluralistic possibilities only occur after he is 80.
listen to those older than you... they have something called life experience.I don't think you can simply attribute old age to his arminian positions. From a rationalistic point of view what he has been saying has been embraced by other heretics(Such as Robert Shueller) and it's not like he has forgotten who Christ is. I think he has just changed his position and I don't think Dr. McMahon would be bringing it up as he does if he thought there was mental defect involved. I'm not passing judgment on him, but against his teaching as being unbiblical and anti-Christian.
Dort's theology was 100% right, but it was not right to condemn arminians as heretics in the same sense (if it was) as pelegians and donatists. It was clearly not right to execute arminians and put them in prison. Exile... that's another storyI think the history of the council of Dort should be seen in light of this conversation.
Daniel, I would respectfully argue that it is precisely because of his great fame and continuing influence that what Rev. Graham says is indeed relevant, and merits discussion. As such, his errors should be pointed out and refuted.
Exactly.Yet there is certainly a right and wrong way to do this.