2017 College Pick-Em Big Bowl Bash

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  1. toddpedlar

    toddpedlar Iron Dramatist Staff Member

    Alright - Here is the 2017 Big Bowl Bash.

    The format:

    The 40 games must be selected by 12:00 EST, December 16, kickoff time for the Air Force Reserve Celebration Bowl. This INCLUDES your selection for the National Championship Game - which must be one of the two you pick for the winners of the National Semifinals.

    I have decided that the Hawaii Bowl, which is played on the Lord's Day, 12/24, is NOT part of the roster of games to be selected.

    Games are sorted into Tiers in which:

    Games up through December 24 are worth 1 point.
    Most games between December 26 and January 1 are worth 2 points
    The Non-Playoff New Years Six games are worth 4 points
    The Semifinals, AND the Final are worth 8 points

    I did not increase the Final to 16 points because you gain a significant advantage in your Finals selection by correctly selecting both semifinals. Making the final worth 16 points would vastly over-rate that one game relative to everything else, as a result, and essentially make it very likely that no matter how poorly one does with the other 37 games, if you pick all three of the playoff games correctly you're essentially going to win the contest... and that doesn't seem appropriate.

    I have tested this and the system gives a good balance between the games up to the playoffs and the playoff games themselves - so that both are meaningful, but the playoff games are a significant (but not dominant) key to victory.

    If two or more players have the same total after the playoffs I have a 3-tiered tiebreak system

    1) The Championship game selection (1 or 0)
    2) The semifinal games (2, 1, or 0)
    3) The total number of games correctly selected (equal weighting for all 41 games)
    4) Number of regular season weekly victories

    This should be sufficient. The system is not terribly likely to generate a tie in the first place, but if it does, these 4 levels of tiebreaker seem never to fail after extensive testing.

    The Competitors:

    Our weekly winners:

    Claudiu :flamingscot:
    Douglas Padgett :flamingscot::flamingscot::flamingscot:
    earl40 :flamingscot:
    Edm :flamingscot:
    Edward :flamingscot:
    GreenBaggins :flamingscot:
    Kainos :flamingscot:
    SolaScriptura :flamingscot::flamingscot:
    toddpedlar :flamingscot::flamingscot::flamingscot:
     
  2. toddpedlar

    toddpedlar Iron Dramatist Staff Member

    The Games (in parentheses is the weighting for the particular game):

    All times Eastern

    (1) Celebration Bowl, 12:00 12/16 on ABC: Grambling vs. North Carolina A&T
    (1) New Orleans Bowl, 13:00 12/16 on ESPN: Troy vs. North Texas
    (1) Cure Bowl, 14:30 12/16 on CBSSN: Georgia State vs. Western Kentucky
    (1) Las Vegas Bowl, 15:30 12/16 on ABC: Boise State vs. Oregon
    (1) New Mexico Bowl, 16:30 12/16 on ESPN: Marshall vs. Colorado State
    (1) Camellia Bowl, 20:00 12/16 on ESPN: Arkansas State vs. Middle Tennessee
    (1) Boca Raton Bowl, 19:00 12/19 on ESPN: FAU vs. Akron
    (1) Frisco Bowl, 20:00 12/20 on ESPN: SMU vs. Louisiana Tech
    (1) Gasparilla Bowl, 20:00 12/21 on ESPN: FIU vs. Temple
    (1) Bahamas Bowl, 12:30 12/22 on ESPN: Ohio vs. UAB
    (1) Potato Bowl, 16:00 12/22 on ESPN: CMU vs. Wyoming
    (1) Birmingham Bowl, 12:00 12/23 on ESPN: USF vs. Texas Tech
    (1) Armed Forces Bowl, 15:30 12/23 on ESPN: Army vs. San Diego State
    (1) Dollar General Bowl, 19:00 12/23 on ESPN: Appalachian State vs. Toledo

    The Hawaii Bowl, played on the Lord's Day, is NOT part of the roster of games

    (2) Heart of Dallas Bowl, 13:30 12/26 on ESPN: Utah vs. West Virginia
    (2) Quick Lane Bowl, 17:15 12/26 on ESPN: Duke vs. NIU
    (2) Cactus Bowl, 21:00 12/26 on ESPN: Kansas State vs. UCLA
    (2) Independence Bowl, 13:30 12/27 on ESPN: Florida State vs. Southern Miss
    (2) Pinstripe Bowl, 17:15 12/27 on ESPN: Boston College vs. Iowa
    (2) Foster Farms Bowl, 20:30 12/27 on FOX: Arizona vs. Purdue
    (2) Texas Bowl, 21:00 12/27 on ESPN: Texas vs. Missouri
    (2) Military Bowl, 13:30 12/28 on ESPN: Virginia vs. Navy
    (2) Camping World Bowl, 17:15 12/28 on ESPN: Oklahoma State vs. Virginia Tech
    (2) Holiday Bowl, 21:00 12/28 on FS1: Michigan State vs. Washington State
    (2) Alamo Bowl, 21:00 12/28 on ESPN: Stanford vs. TCU
    (2) Belk Bowl, 13:00 12/29 on ESPN: Wake Forest vs. Texas A&M
    (2) Sun Bowl, 15:00 12/29 on CBS: Arizona State vs. NC State
    (2) Music City Bowl, 16:30 12/29 on ESPN: Kentucky vs. Northwestern
    (2) Arizona Bowl, 17:30 12/29 on CBSSN: New Mexico State vs. Utah State
    (2) TaxSlayer Bowl, 12:00 12/30 on ESPN: Mississippi State vs. Louisville
    (2) Liberty Bowl, 12:30 12/30 on ABC: Memphis vs. Iowa State
    (2) Outback Bowl, 12:00 1/1 on ESPN2: Michigan vs. South Carolina
    (2) Citrus Bowl, 13:00 1/1 on ABC: Notre Dame vs. LSU

    (4) Cotton Bowl, 20:30 12/29 on ESPN: Ohio State vs. USC
    (4) Fiesta Bowl, 16:00 12/30 on ESPN: Penn State vs. Washington
    (4) Orange Bowl, 20:00 12/30 on ESPN: Miami vs. Wisconsin
    (4) Peach Bowl, 12:30 1/1 on ESPN: Auburn vs. UCF

    (8) Rose Bowl Playoff semifinal, 17:00 1/1 on ESPN: Oklahoma vs. Georgia
    (8) Sugar Bowl Playoff semifinal, 20:45 1/1 on ESPN: Clemson vs. Alabama

    (8) National Championship, 20:00 1/8 on ESPN: Rose winner vs. Sugar winner

    Again, it has been a pleasure filling in this second half of the season, and planning and hosting this championship. Have fun!
     
  3. SolaScriptura

    SolaScriptura Puritan Board Doctor

    So that everyone is clear: Do we need to provide projected final scores to the Championship or any other game in this year's Bowl Bash?
     
  4. toddpedlar

    toddpedlar Iron Dramatist Staff Member

    No projected final scores needed.

    Todd
     
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  5. SolaScriptura

    SolaScriptura Puritan Board Doctor

    Well, it has been another enjoyable season! A HUGE thank you to Todd for stepping in midway through the season - as usual, you did a marvelous job!

    Below are my picks for the upcoming bowl games...

    Tier 1

    Celebration Bowl = North Carolina A&T
    New Orleans Bowl = Troy
    Cure Bowl = Western Kentucky
    Las Vegas Bowl = Oregon
    New Mexico Bowl = Colorado State
    Camellia Bowl = Arkansas State
    Boca Raton Bowl = FAU
    Frisco Bowl = SMU
    Gasparilla Bowl = Temple
    Bahamas Bowl = Ohio
    Potato Bowl = CMU
    Birmingham Bowl = USF
    Armed Forces Bowl = San Diego State
    Dollar General Bowl = Toledo

    Tier 2
    Heart of Dallas Bowl = Utah
    Quick Lane Bowl = Duke
    Cactus Bowl = Kansas State
    Independence Bowl = Florida State
    Pinstripe Bowl = Iowa
    Foster Farms Bowl = Purdue
    Texas Bowl = Missouri
    Military Bowl = Navy
    Camping World Bowl = Oklahoma State
    Holiday Bowl = Michigan State
    Alamo Bowl = TCU
    Belk Bowl = Wake Forest
    Sun Bowl = NC State
    Music City Bowl = Northwestern
    Arizona Bowl = New Mexico State
    TaxSlayer Bowl = Louisville
    Liberty Bowl = Iowa State
    Outback Bowl = Michigan
    Citrus Bowl = Notre Dame

    Tier 3
    Cotton Bowl = Ohio State
    Fiesta Bowl = Penn State
    Orange Bowl = Wisconsin
    Peach Bowl = UCF

    Tier 4
    Rose Bowl = Oklahoma
    Sugar Bowl = Clemson
    National Championship = Oklahoma
     
  6. earl40

    earl40 Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    North Carolina A&T
    Troy
    Western Kentucky
    Oregon
    Colorado State
    Middle Tennessee
    FAU
    SMU
    Temple
    UAB
    CMU
    USF
    Army
    Appalachian State



    West Virginia
    Duke
    UCLA
    Southern Miss
    Iowa
    Arizona
    Texas
    Virginia
    Oklahoma State
    Michigan State
    TCU
    Texas A&M
    NC State
    Northwestern
    Utah State
    Mississippi State
    Memphis
    Michigan
    LSU

    Ohio State
    Penn State
    Miami
    Auburn :(

    Georgia
    Clemson

    Georgia
     
  7. greenbaggins

    greenbaggins Administrator Staff Member

    Tier 1:
    Grambling
    Troy
    Georgia State
    Boise State
    Colorado State
    Arkansas State
    FAU
    SMU
    FIU
    Ohio
    Wyoming
    USF
    San Diego State
    Toledo

    Tier 2:
    West Virginia
    Northern Illinois
    Kansas State
    Florida State
    Iowa
    Arizona
    Missouri (go Texas!)
    Navy
    Oklahoma State
    Michigan State
    TCU
    Texas A&M
    NC State
    Northwestern
    New Mexico State
    Louisville
    Memphis
    Michigan
    Notre Dame

    Tier 3:
    USC
    Penn State
    Wisconsin
    Auburn

    Tier 4:
    Georgia
    Alabama

    Tier 5:
    Georgia
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2017
  8. Edward

    Edward Puritan Board Doctor

    The problem with picking too early is that you can't take into account the end of semester arrests. We've got a couple of pot arrests for Georgia at this point, and a felony at Texas A&M. Any I've missed so far?
     
  9. BG

    BG Puritan Board Junior

    I’m sure they will all be on parole by game time.
     
  10. Edward

    Edward Puritan Board Doctor

    And have their street cred established before the National Felons League draft.
     
  11. SolaScriptura

    SolaScriptura Puritan Board Doctor

    One of Iowa's safeties had a DUI this weekend...
     
  12. Edward

    Edward Puritan Board Doctor

    (1)
    Grambling
    Troy
    Georgia State
    Oregon
    Colorado State
    Arkansas State
    FAU
    Louisiana Tech
    FIU
    Ohio
    Wyoming
    Texas Tech
    San Diego State
    Toledo

    (2)
    Utah
    Duke
    Kansas State
    Florida State
    Iowa
    Arizona
    Texas
    Navy
    Oklahoma State
    Washington State
    TCU
    Texas A&M
    NC State
    Northwestern
    New Mexico State
    Mississippi State
    Memphis
    Michigan
    LSU

    (4)
    Ohio State
    Penn State
    Wisconsin
    Auburn

    (8)
    Georgia
    Alabama

    (8) National Championship
    Georgia
     
  13. toddpedlar

    toddpedlar Iron Dramatist Staff Member

    (1) Celebration Bowl, 12:00 12/16 on ABC: Grambling vs. North Carolina A&T
    (1) New Orleans Bowl, 13:00 12/16 on ESPN: Troy vs. North Texas
    (1) Cure Bowl, 14:30 12/16 on CBSSN: Georgia State vs. Western Kentucky
    (1) Las Vegas Bowl, 15:30 12/16 on ABC: Boise State vs. Oregon
    (1) New Mexico Bowl, 16:30 12/16 on ESPN: Marshall vs. Colorado State
    (1) Camellia Bowl, 20:00 12/16 on ESPN: Arkansas State vs. Middle Tennessee
    (1) Boca Raton Bowl, 19:00 12/19 on ESPN: FAU vs. Akron
    (1) Frisco Bowl, 20:00 12/20 on ESPN: SMU vs. Louisiana Tech
    (1) Gasparilla Bowl, 20:00 12/21 on ESPN: FIU vs. Temple
    (1) Bahamas Bowl, 12:30 12/22 on ESPN: Ohio vs. UAB
    (1) Potato Bowl, 16:00 12/22 on ESPN: CMU vs. Wyoming
    (1) Birmingham Bowl, 12:00 12/23 on ESPN: USF vs. Texas Tech
    (1) Armed Forces Bowl, 15:30 12/23 on ESPN: Army vs. San Diego State
    (1) Dollar General Bowl, 19:00 12/23 on ESPN: Appalachian State vs. Toledo

    The Hawaii Bowl, played on the Lord's Day, is NOT part of the roster of games

    (2) Heart of Dallas Bowl, 13:30 12/26 on ESPN: Utah vs. West Virginia
    (2) Quick Lane Bowl, 17:15 12/26 on ESPN: Duke vs. NIU
    (2) Cactus Bowl, 21:00 12/26 on ESPN: Kansas State vs. UCLA
    (2) Independence Bowl, 13:30 12/27 on ESPN: Florida State vs. Southern Miss
    (2) Pinstripe Bowl, 17:15 12/27 on ESPN: Boston College vs. Iowa
    (2) Foster Farms Bowl, 20:30 12/27 on FOX: Arizona vs. Purdue
    (2) Texas Bowl, 21:00 12/27 on ESPN: Texas vs. Missouri
    (2) Military Bowl, 13:30 12/28 on ESPN: Virginia vs. Navy
    (2) Camping World Bowl, 17:15 12/28 on ESPN: Oklahoma State vs. Virginia Tech
    (2) Holiday Bowl, 21:00 12/28 on FS1: Michigan State vs. Washington State
    (2) Alamo Bowl, 21:00 12/28 on ESPN: Stanford vs. TCU
    (2) Belk Bowl, 13:00 12/29 on ESPN: Wake Forest vs. Texas A&M
    (2) Sun Bowl, 15:00 12/29 on CBS: Arizona State vs. NC State
    (2) Music City Bowl, 16:30 12/29 on ESPN: Kentucky vs. Northwestern
    (2) Arizona Bowl, 17:30 12/29 on CBSSN: New Mexico State vs. Utah State
    (2) TaxSlayer Bowl, 12:00 12/30 on ESPN: Mississippi State vs. Louisville
    (2) Liberty Bowl, 12:30 12/30 on ABC: Memphis vs. Iowa State
    (2) Outback Bowl, 12:00 1/1 on ESPN2: Michigan vs. South Carolina
    (2) Citrus Bowl, 13:00 1/1 on ABC: Notre Dame vs. LSU

    (4) Cotton Bowl, 20:30 12/29 on ESPN: Ohio State vs. USC
    (4) Fiesta Bowl, 16:00 12/30 on ESPN: Penn State vs. Washington
    (4) Orange Bowl, 20:00 12/30 on ESPN: Miami vs. Wisconsin
    (4) Peach Bowl, 12:30 1/1 on ESPN: Auburn vs. UCF

    (8) Rose Bowl Playoff semifinal, 17:00 1/1 on ESPN: Oklahoma vs. Georgia
    (8) Sugar Bowl Playoff semifinal, 20:45 1/1 on ESPN: Clemson vs. Alabama

    (8) National Championship, 20:00 1/8 on ESPN: Clemson
     
  14. Edm

    Edm Puritan Board Freshman

    (1 Grambling
    (1) Troy
    (1) Western Kentucky
    (1) Oregon
    (1) Marshall
    (1 Middle Tennessee
    (1) FAU
    (1Louisiana Tech
    (1 Temple
    (1) UAB
    (1) Wyoming
    Texas Tech
    (1) Army
    (1) Appalachian State

    The Hawaii Bowl, played on the Lord's Day, is NOT part of the roster of games

    (2) West Virginia
    (2) NIU
    (2) UCLA
    (2) Florida State
    (2) Iowa
    (2) Purdue
    (2) Texas
    (2) Virginia
    (2) Virginia Tech
    (2) Michigan State
    (2) TCU
    (2) Texas A&M
    (2)NC State
    (2) : Kentucky
    (2) Utah State
    (2) Mississippi State
    (2 Memphis
    (2) South Carolina
    (2) LSU

    (4) Ohio State
    (4) Washington
    (4) Wisconsin
    (4) Auburn

    (8) Georgia
    (8) Alabama

    (8) National Championship, Alabama

    man, that was some work there....
     
  15. toddpedlar

    toddpedlar Iron Dramatist Staff Member

    Ok - the pumpkin hour has passed. Next year's Pick 'Em runner will be one of these six: (with their championship semifinals and finals listed here for fun - noting that it may not matter how well they pick those games if the rest of the bowls went sour)

    Sola Scriptura: OK, CLEM, OK
    Earl: GA, CLEM, GA
    Greenbaggins: GA, BAMA, GA
    Edward: GA, BAMA, GA
    Edm: GA, BAMA, BAMA
    Toddpedlar: OK, CLEM, CLEM
     
  16. SolaScriptura

    SolaScriptura Puritan Board Doctor

    May the best guesser win!
     
  17. toddpedlar

    toddpedlar Iron Dramatist Staff Member

    None of us had a particularly stellar first day - what a mass of middling prognosticators that we are!

    Big Bowl Bash Standings after games of December 16 (totals out of 5 points possible):

    Earl40, GreenBaggins, Edm: 3
    SolaScriptura, Edward, toddpedlar: 2
     
  18. SolaScriptura

    SolaScriptura Puritan Board Doctor

    I wonder if the scores will be this close this time next week!
     
  19. Edm

    Edm Puritan Board Freshman

    I was tricked...you waited till we had picked before you announced that the winner would be running this next year....
     
  20. earl40

    earl40 Puritan Board Post-Graduate

    Zebco 202 to the winner. :)
     
  21. toddpedlar

    toddpedlar Iron Dramatist Staff Member

    Oh, it's the way it's been for a decade... (and is announced every fall when we start up) :)
     
  22. Edward

    Edward Puritan Board Doctor

  23. SolaScriptura

    SolaScriptura Puritan Board Doctor

    Perhaps a worthy addition to next year’s season is: guess how many players will be arrested within 3 weeks of the end of regular season.
     
  24. Edward

    Edward Puritan Board Doctor

    Possible tiebreaker for next year.
     
  25. toddpedlar

    toddpedlar Iron Dramatist Staff Member

    Update after the Tier 1 games:

    Edm has a commanding 1 point lead over earl40, with GreenBaggins another point back, and then Edward, SolaScriptura, and toddpedlar bringing up the rear. Tier 2 games count for double, and start tomorrow:

    Out of 14 possible points:

    Edm: 9
    earl40: 8
    GreenBaggins: 7
    Edward, SolaScriptura, toddpedlar: 6
     
  26. SolaScriptura

    SolaScriptura Puritan Board Doctor

    Edm is out front... but I have a feeling things will get exciting this week!
     
  27. Edm

    Edm Puritan Board Freshman

    I'm hoping so. I have no intention of winning... that's not one of my habits..:surrender:
     
  28. toddpedlar

    toddpedlar Iron Dramatist Staff Member

    After the Dec. 26 games, there's a bit different complexion... still, it's anyone's game!

    Sola Scriptura and Edward: 12
    toddpedlar and earl40: 10
    GreenBaggins and Edm: 9
     
  29. toddpedlar

    toddpedlar Iron Dramatist Staff Member

    A couple great football games yesterday, and a couple of blowouts... and while there's a bit more separation after the games of Dec 27, it's still anybody's game (kudos to Edm on a perfect day yesterday!):

    Sola Scriptura and Edward: 18
    Edm: 17
    toddpedlar: 16
    earl40: 14
    Greenbaggins: 13
     
  30. SolaScriptura

    SolaScriptura Puritan Board Doctor

    Some great matchups tonight!
     
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