Eoghan
Puritan Board Senior
[BIBLE]1 Samuel 14:41 -45[/BIBLE]
Where does the ESV get the detail of Urim for this and Thummim for that. If as Josephus tells us the Urim and Thummim glowed than this implies a divine answer. If however it was a simple lot then God could be silent and still there would have been a lot to point to Jonathan with God's passive will rather than His active will (if that makes sense).
The KJV and the NASV do not refer to Urim and Thummim which suits me fine - it downgrades the lot from direct revelation to providence (if that makes sense). So where is the ESV getting this - surely not the Septuagint?
Where does the ESV get the detail of Urim for this and Thummim for that. If as Josephus tells us the Urim and Thummim glowed than this implies a divine answer. If however it was a simple lot then God could be silent and still there would have been a lot to point to Jonathan with God's passive will rather than His active will (if that makes sense).
The KJV and the NASV do not refer to Urim and Thummim which suits me fine - it downgrades the lot from direct revelation to providence (if that makes sense). So where is the ESV getting this - surely not the Septuagint?