1 John 1:8-2:1

Discussion in 'NT Epistles' started by christianyouth, Oct 17, 2008.

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  1. christianyouth

    christianyouth Puritan Board Senior

    1 Jhn 1:8 - If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
    1 Jhn 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
    1 Jhn 1:10 - If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar and his word is not in us.
    1 Jhn 2:1 - My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

    Hey brothers, I am having a hard time understanding these verses. It seems like they say that we have to confess our sins to receive forgiveness. How does this fit with the truths taught in 2:2 , that Christ is our propitiation? If he atoned for us believers, why do we need to receive forgiveness through confession? :confused:
  2. YXU

    YXU Puritan Board Freshman

    I think this forgiveness of sins is a restoration to God throughout the process of our santification when we sin and seek mercy.

    It is different than the one time act of justification which is only once, and we are just before God for ever.

    If it is the ever first confession of sins made by a man, definitely it is not the cause of salvation, but the fruit of salvation or the means of which God commonly saves a man. It matches perfectly with the I John 2:2. Just like, God's decree to bless his people with certain blessings, then the means God takes is to let his people pray and ask and then give to them. They are not contradicting.
  3. christianyouth

    christianyouth Puritan Board Senior

    But the thing is, it deals specifically with forgiveness of sins. He urges people to confess their sins so they can receive forgiveness of sins. As Christians, haven't we already received forgiveness of sins?
  4. VirginiaHuguenot

    VirginiaHuguenot Puritanboard Librarian

    Thomas Watson, The Lord's Prayer:

    Richard Sibbes, A Heavenly Conference in Works, Vol. 6, p. 449:

  5. Theognome

    Theognome Burrito Bill

    Confession and repentance is, in and of itself, a work of the Holy Spirit. 1 John is a confirmation of an extant reality given towards the visible Church. As Christians, we are to be repentant and confessional continually... it's part of sanctification. Thus, as Christians, we need not live in guilt- we can confess our sins, and be cleansed.

  6. charliejunfan

    charliejunfan Puritan Board Senior

    I think it is saying that if we don't recognize sin (confess) in our lives then we are "claiming" that we are sinless and thus the truth is not in us. One who is saved will see and confess sin knowing they are forgiven, not that we recieve forgiveness as a result of our confession.
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