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wow. when I heard "Hear our cry Obama" I just turned it off. I wonder what Obama himself would say about this. He says he is a Christian so surely he would speak out against this if he was aware of it, right?
 
Actually, the President is a former organizer with this group and is very familiar with their workings.

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Andres said:
wow. when I heard "Hear our cry Obama" I just turned it off. I wonder what Obama himself would say about this. He says he is a Christian so surely he would speak out against this if he was aware of it, right?
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Wow. That is amazing. I thought the video of the kids singing reminded me of a communist regime worshipping the supreme leader, but this reminds me that beyond that, people are elevating him to a godlike status.
Wow.
 
One of the many reasons to reject socialism: ultimately the collective must be led by one (or a group of 'one') in order to ensure the stability of 'equality for all' except that, as famously stated by Orwell, some are (or will be) more equal than others.

Tragically then the presidency, originally intended to provide a balance to the other authorities so that the law might be upheld in the face of power mongering, is now the vehicle through which this stability might be achieved because of the ignorance of the populace and the pandering of many other elected officials.
 
Poimen said:
One of the many reasons to reject socialism: ultimately the collective must be led by one (or a group of 'one') in order to ensure the stability of 'equality for all' except that, as famously stated by Orwell, some are (or will be) more equal than others.

Tragically then the presidency, originally intended to provide a balance to the other authorities so that the law might be upheld in the face of power mongering, is now the vehicle through which this stability might be achieved because of the ignorance of the populace and the pandering of many other elected officials.
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:offtopic: Socialism, Capitalism....All man made economic theories are flawed.
 
Andres said:
He says he is a Christian so surely he would speak out against this if he was aware of it, right?
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He said that during the campaign to help his election chances. After leaving the Rev. Wright's "church" I believe he attended a D.C. Episcopal "church" once or twice. He won't be a Christian again until reelection gets closer.
 
Berean said:
Andres said:
He says he is a Christian so surely he would speak out against this if he was aware of it, right?
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He said that during the campaign to help his election chances. After leaving the Rev. Wright's "church" I believe he attended a D.C. Episcopal "church" once or twice. He won't be a Christian again until reelection gets closer.
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Im puzzled by those who take his christianity serious. There is a video on youtube, where he mocks scripture. Alan Keys, said it best when he said " Jesus Christ would not vote for Barack Obama".

Their debate is on youtube.
 
My buddy who's an uber-liberal atheist democrat says he doesn't believe for a second that Obama is a Christian, and also voiced a preference the Obama just be honest and reject the notion. I agreed.
 
Zenas said:
My buddy who's an uber-liberal atheist democrat says he doesn't believe for a second that Obama is a Christian, and also voiced a preference the Obama just be honest and reject the notion. I agreed.
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If those who are blunt about their unbelief can see it, how come those who go to church cant?
 
I don't know what they were saying in their earlier petitions, but latterly it sounded like. "Deliver us, O God." rather than "Deliver us , Obama" (?)

I don't think they're mentioning Obama.
 
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