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Children are sinners deserving of death as much as any grown person, original sin is real and terrible. On judgment days countless millions of seemingly good people will be exposed for the sinners they are and be cast into hell.
If you were asked to point out a sin that a 3 month old child has committed what would you point out? Or have they not committed sin but rather the fact that they have a sin nature is what makes them deserving?
To get rid of that group of people which He didn't want on this earth anymore.
To get rid of that group of people which He didn't want on this earth anymore.
The inhabitants of the ancient city of Carthage were descendants of the Canaanites. I once read that when the Romans finally made in to Carthage and sacked the city, they were appalled by the immorality they found there. Play that one again in your mind -- the Romans were grossed out by what these latter Canaanites were doing...
The inhabitants of the ancient city of Carthage were descendants of the Canaanites.
So if someone were to ask you "Why did God order the Israelites to kill children" how would you answer?
So if someone were to ask you "Why did God order the Israelites to kill children" how would you answer?
For me it would depend on who this "someone" was who asked the question.
So, hypothetically, if it was an atheist i would simply ask, "do you believe that killing children is wrong?"...."why is it wrong?"...."So you are against abortion?"
And take the conversation from there.
The inhabitants of the ancient city of Carthage were descendants of the Canaanites.
I think Sarah's got you there, Pastor. Carthage was a colony of the Phoenicians; Tyre in particular If I recall correctly. They weren't Canaanites, and there are good things said about them in Scripture.
So if someone were to ask you "Why did God order the Israelites to kill children" how would you answer?
For me it would depend on who this "someone" was who asked the question.
So, hypothetically, if it was an atheist i would simply ask, "do you believe that killing children is wrong?"...."why is it wrong?"...."So you are against abortion?"
And take the conversation from there.
What if they were a Christian? How would you respond?
Instead of destroying them with a natural or other disaster, God decided to make an example of them in the judgment being inflicted on them by His people with the iron sword.
I also believe that Sarah was confirming what I said. The residents of Carthage were repulsive to even the Romans; since the Romans were immoral, what does that say about Carthage?
For me it would depend on who this "someone" was who asked the question.
So, hypothetically, if it was an atheist i would simply ask, "do you believe that killing children is wrong?"...."why is it wrong?"...."So you are against abortion?"
And take the conversation from there.
What if they were a Christian? How would you respond?
I would most likely come from a perspective that questioned if He was their God how could they sit in judgment on Him.
I would most likely come from a perspective that questioned if He was their God how could they sit in judgment on Him.
Carthage was a colony of the Phoenicians .... They weren't Canaanites ...
The Levant region was inhabited by people who themselves referred to the land as 'ca-na-na-um' as early as the mid-third millennium BCE. There are a number of possible etymologies for the word.
Some suggest the name comes from Hebrew "cana'ani" word meant merchant, for which, as Phoenicians, the Canaanites became justly famous.
The Akkadian word "kinahhu", however, referred to the red-colored wool, dyed from the Murex molluscs of the coast, which was throughout history a key export of the region. When the Greeks later traded with the Canaanites, this meaning of the word seems to have predominated as they called the Canaanites the Phoenikes or "Phoenicians", which may derive from the Greek word "Phoenix" meaning crimson or purple, and again described the cloth for which the Greeks also traded. The Romans transcribed "phoenix" to "poenus", thus calling the descendants of the Canaanite settlers in Carthage "Punic".
Thus while Phoenician and Canaanite refer to the same culture, archaeologists and historians commonly refer to the Bronze Age, pre-1200 BCE Levantines as Canaanites and their Iron Age descendants, particularly those living on the coast as Phoenicians. More recently, the term Canaanite has been used for the secondary Iron Age states of the interior, that were not ruled by Aramaean peoples, a separate and closely related ethnic group which included the Philistines and the states of Israel and Judah.
Here's part of the problem. Apparently Canaan and Phoenicia are used interchangeably (sort of) with one another.
Finally, it is a matter of historical record that the Canaanites were notoriously deviant in their sexual behavior. Almost everywhere the archeologist's spade has dug in that part of the world there have been fertility symbols accompanying texts explicit enough to make many a modern pornographic dealer seem a mere beginner in the trade of deviant sexuality. Sodom left its name for the vice these people practiced. Even the Romans, so depraved in their own practices, were shocked by the behavior of the Phoenicians at the colony of Carthage (the last vestige of the Canaanite race).
Anyone who says "innocent child" does not have a true understanding of the nature of sin or the guilt of human beings or the need for the cross or the greatness of the Savior.
Because He is God. Good and evil aren't absolutes. Something is good because God says it is good. Something is evil because God says it is evil.
So, I would tell the person that his objection is well founded, and without a direct revelation from God, it would be evil to kill children.
The Canaanite genocide was a one time thing, where God said to do something that He normally didn't allow. Since He is God.
2Sa 5:11 And Hiram king of Tyre sent messengers to David, and cedar trees, also carpenters and masons who built David a house
1Ki 5:1 Now Hiram king of Tyre sent his servants to Solomon when he heard that they had anointed him king in place of his father, for Hiram always loved David.
So, I would tell the person that his objection is well founded, and without a direct revelation from God, it would be evil to kill children.
This is just false. I don't know how to say it more graciously.
God never ordered the Phoenicians to be exterminated ...
An eschatological intrusion. A physical, historical representation of God's consuming judgment on all who are outside Christ.
Well, that wasn't too ungracious. But it is evil to kill babies. Except when God countermands His own law. Specifically when God tells you to kill a baby, or sacrifice your son, or marry your sister, or stab a man with whom you have no feud, punish a son for the deeds of his father or marry a whore, you need to do those things which are in any other circumstances evil. You can spin it however you wish.