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Was John's Baptism Christian Baptism?
Was John's Baptism Christian Baptism?
No. It was a baptism of repentance, but it was not Trinitarian or even in Christ.
Were the twelve apostles baptised with anything other than John's baptism?
Were the twelve apostles baptised with anything other than John's baptism?
Does someone have to understand everything about salvation and Christianity for a Baptism to be valid? .....Not according to the CoF.
Does someone have to understand everything about salvation and Christianity for a Baptism to be valid? .....Not according to the CoF.
In that case they would have to be baptized by a minister adhering to the C of F
Obviously a child baptized into the covenant doesn't know too much.
Calvin believed that John's Baptism was Christian. Most adults that are baptized know very little about Christianity. I know that was true in my case, of my three Baptisms (as a Baptist). Two were when I was an adult, and I knew next to nothing of Christianity.
Were the twelve apostles baptised with anything other than John's baptism?
Now, here's an alternative translation of this verse, mine: Joh 4:2 (Gk) καιτοιγε ιησους αυτος ουκ εβαπτιζεν αλλ οι μαθηται αυτου. (Eng) although Jesus himself was not baptizing except for his disciples.
This is a much deeper question than might first appear. John Calvin felt that John's baptism was nothing less than Christian baptism. While I incline to the view that the two are definitely distinct (which puts me at odds with the master--one of only a few times I've disagreed with Calvin), it is plain that the earlier serves as a strong bridge from the OT to the NT. John the Baptist and His Baptism are together the transition element between the Testaments.
They did not seem to know that Jesus was the Christ and they certainly did not know about the Holy Spirit (according to 19:2). It seems unlikely that it would have been Trinitarian.
Paul asks them into what were they baptized, and they respond by saying, "Into John's baptism." There is no baptism into the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit; there is no baptism into Christ (until v. 5 -- it is only then that they are baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus).
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I was really hoping to get a few responses from those of you who don't believe that John's Baptism is Christian. I am not looking to debate just curious as to what you believe.
Could I get some of you to respond to the following which I posted earlier.
What is a Baptism of repentance?
Does not repentance require a work of the Spirit?
How can a Church member/Disciple receive a Baptism of repentance and not know anything about the Spirit?
John 1:1 tells us that John's ministry started after the beginning of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I just assumed that John's ministry was a part of the Gospel. His ministry in my opinion was to prepare the people for the coming Messiah, call the faithful to repent (aided by the work of the Holy spirit) and receive the new sign of the NC. I also assumed that the OT faithful knew about the work of the Spirit.
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Was John's Baptism Christian Baptism?