alexandermsmith
Puritan Board Junior
Aimee Byrd over on the Mortification of Spin blog has taken issue with this article by Owen Strachan:
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thoughtlife/2019/05/divine-order-in-a-chaotic-age-on-women-preaching/
Her response to it is here:
http://www.mortificationofspin.org/...-of-ess-is-not-thunderously-good#.XNrWTo5KjGh
She says it is basically a "rebranding" of the ESS position which caused such trouble a few years back. Strachan's book The Grand Design was certainly in error and I have no idea if he has changed his position or not but, once again, I am troubled by Byrd's argument here.
Having read Strachan's article I'm finding it hard to find a problem. I suppose the most "troubling" passage, and it's the one Byrd herself highlights, is this:
"They have had very little grounding (in some cases) in the order of creation. They know God created the earth, but they haven’t heard much more than that. They sense that homosexuality is sinful, but beyond a few biblical citations, they do not have a doctrinal position on the matter. They know there are men and women, but they have heard little about divine design. But this design, this order, is vital. Grounded in theistic ontology itself, it is the very bedrock of Christian theology and the Christian worldview. You could say it this way: there is order in the home; there is order in the churches; there is order in the world God has made." [Emphasis added. It is in this passage that Strachan links to his above mentioned book which would suggest he is repeating his wrong arguments from that.]
That reference to "theistic ontology" is vague to say the least. However, the basic argument seems pretty solid to me. 1 Corinthians 11:3 would seem to support Strachan's argument from divinely established order.
Perhaps having Strachan make the argument is unhelpful, but what are people's thoughts?
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thoughtlife/2019/05/divine-order-in-a-chaotic-age-on-women-preaching/
Her response to it is here:
http://www.mortificationofspin.org/...-of-ess-is-not-thunderously-good#.XNrWTo5KjGh
She says it is basically a "rebranding" of the ESS position which caused such trouble a few years back. Strachan's book The Grand Design was certainly in error and I have no idea if he has changed his position or not but, once again, I am troubled by Byrd's argument here.
Having read Strachan's article I'm finding it hard to find a problem. I suppose the most "troubling" passage, and it's the one Byrd herself highlights, is this:
"They have had very little grounding (in some cases) in the order of creation. They know God created the earth, but they haven’t heard much more than that. They sense that homosexuality is sinful, but beyond a few biblical citations, they do not have a doctrinal position on the matter. They know there are men and women, but they have heard little about divine design. But this design, this order, is vital. Grounded in theistic ontology itself, it is the very bedrock of Christian theology and the Christian worldview. You could say it this way: there is order in the home; there is order in the churches; there is order in the world God has made." [Emphasis added. It is in this passage that Strachan links to his above mentioned book which would suggest he is repeating his wrong arguments from that.]
That reference to "theistic ontology" is vague to say the least. However, the basic argument seems pretty solid to me. 1 Corinthians 11:3 would seem to support Strachan's argument from divinely established order.
Perhaps having Strachan make the argument is unhelpful, but what are people's thoughts?