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    Men should wear beards...according to this guy.



    Okay I found that while researching Agrarianism, is there not a problem with this? He claims shaving is a recent thing because of homosexuals but, there are plenty of portraits of people (including preachers), beardless prior to homosexuality being excepted at all in society. Also an Arminian (at least, I think so because of there user name) commented that Leviticus 19 is in reference to temple priests, and it falls under legalism.

    Frankly, it just reminds me of the Taliban who will kill you if you don't have a beard.
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    There are many foolish things to be found on the internet. I don't think this one is worth even worrying about.

    Shaving is cultural. Joseph shaved before he met Pharoah. Owen was clean-shaven, Dabney had an amazing beard. I like them both, by the way.
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    There are some men who aren't entirely attractive with a beard. Fortunately, I'm not one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AThornquist View Post
    There are some men who aren't entirely attractive with a beard. Fortunately, I'm not one of them.



    I grow my beard out because the top of my head is a quitter and it needs to see what its job looks like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AThornquist View Post
    There are some men who aren't entirely attractive with a beard. Fortunately, I'm not one of them.
    I used to be very dashing in a beard:

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    Vic, I've seen that puss as a mug shot in the post office. I love ya, bro, but I can really use that reward. Sorry.
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    When did they let the Unabomber out?
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    Just because a man has a decent looking set of books to use as a backdrop doesn't mean he is astute. This man couldn't reason his way out of a wet paper sack.

    (By the way, I wish homosexuality were 'excepted' in our culture. Sorry, couldn't resist. I'm pretty sure you meant accepted.)
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    If you grow a beard you must get some horns!

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    Hair grows on the head too, why does he have a crew cut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny View Post
    Hair grows on the head too, why does he have a crew cut?
    Crewcuts are awesome, I have one
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    There have been a few threads on beard/s
    http://www.puritanboard.com/google.p...d.com%252F#916

    This shows the importance of understanding and learning from OT law carefully and with wisdom and in an appropriate way for the New Covenant era lest we be found to be making Christianity and Christ out to be foolishness by e.g. going around measuring people's beards - if they have them - or taking other positions that don't properly account for redemptive historical and other changes.

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    At what point in Systematics should the sadly neglected locus of Hairology be placed?

    Grow more holy along with your beard.
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    If I am not confusing names, I believe I was once given a book written by Michael Bunker. He was also against things like paying preachers. There were some other odd views in the book, which I admittedly skimmed. But the paying preachers thing stuck with me because the guy who gave it to me was in a group that was interested in forming a core group for a church plant. Go figure. That didn't work out too well. The guy was nice enough (very nice in fact), but he was also a 9/11 Truther.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Tallach View Post
    At what point in Systematics should the sadly neglected locus of Hairology be placed?


    Obviously, under the doctrine of man!
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    I love how many people attribute things to the advent of modernism that occurred well before modernism. All somebody has to say is "X occurred because of our modern culture, so Y is true..." to sustain so many lame arguments.
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    It looks like he has Calvin's commentaries on his bookshelf, so he is probably ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marrow Man View Post
    It looks like he has Calvin's commentaries on his bookshelf, so he is probably ok.
    If only Calvin had shaved, just once, otherwise Calvins beard is one of the better ones out there.
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    A serious question: is he also a kinist?
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    Bunker's beard is kind of funky.

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    BiblicalAgrarianism.com

    That's his other site.
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    one of his point's is that men should grow beards so we can tell them apart from women...buddy if you can't tell a woman apart from a man unless he has a beard, you've got bigger problems to worry about.
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    "Dude looks like a lady..."
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    I suppose every sound brother geezer is entitled to at least one whacky idea. I probably have a few unrecognised ones myself.

    You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard. (Lev 19:27, ESV)
    He's rounded off the hair on his temples but refuses to trim his beard.

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    A serious question: is he also a kinist?
    Is that someone who believes true Christians should only marry their first cousins?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    one of his point's is that men should grow beards so we can tell them apart from women...buddy if you can't tell a woman apart from a man unless he has a beard, you've got bigger problems to worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Tallach View Post
    At what point in Systematics should the sadly neglected locus of Hairology be placed?
    In the discussion of the glorified body, obviously: just where Augustine placed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marrow Man View Post
    A serious question: is he also a kinist?
    I was wondering the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Tallach View Post
    Tim
    A serious question: is he also a kinist?
    Is that someone who believes true Christians should only marry their first cousins?
    From kinism.net:

    Kinism is the belief that the God-ordained social order for man is tribal and ethnic rather than imperial and universal. Mankind was designed by its Creator and Law Giver to live and to thrive in extended family groups, and all other “alternatives” to this pattern are inhibitory of the chief end of man, which is to Glorify God and to enjoy life with Him forever. The doctrine of “equality”, originating with the Jacobin clubs of the French Revolution and adopted by modern liberalism, is highly destructive to the created order of the world, contrary to both nature and to Revealed Law, antithetical to biblical liberty, and is ultimately unachievable. This fact is proven in history by multiple examples and is beyond dispute. Extended blood ties are the only natural and workable basis for a healthy society -a society not subject to the horrifying ideologies of fallen man, be they socialist or capitalist, autocratic or democratic. We believe that an extended tribalism is the normative system for our people, the White races of Europe, the Americas, South Africa, Australia, Transcaucasia, or wherever our extended family finds itself in its modern diaspora.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marrow Man View Post
    From kinism.net:
    A girl at my school tried to argue kinism on me once :/. Frankly most people do it because there racist and use the Bible as an excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny View Post
    Hair grows on the head too, why does he have a crew cut?
    "Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him?" I Cor. 11:14

    Just a guess as to why he has the rather odd look of a crew cut with a long beard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marrow Man View Post
    A serious question: is he also a kinist?
    No, I am fairly certain he is not, based upon some of his writings from circa 2006. Oddly, Yahoo search would not allow the links to be shown--I'd never seen such a warning. When I finally got to the link his writing seemed fairly standard agrarian fare, nothing offensive. The only mention of kinism I saw was him calling out some kinist writer for slandering his wife.
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    absurd

    ---------- Post added at 03:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:18 AM ----------

    This is even more absurd. I took this off of his website. I've never heard of Biblical Agrarianism. Repent, sell your house and move to the country.

    "Agrarianism is the only proper seedbed for Christianity. Where Christianity has existed in an Agrarian culture, it has thrived and produced ample fruit. Where it has existed nominally in a non-agrarian culture it has proved to produce no fruit at all except apostasy. Examples abound. Christianity was born “outside the camp” in the rural areas of Israel and it found its greatest movement and growth once it was scattered out of urban Jerusalem after the stoning of Stephen. It has been hunted down and persecuted by the great harlot city of Rome, while it thrived in the valleys and mountains of the Alps. It found Reformation in Germany, Switzerland, England and Scotland only to suffocate again when it became the state religion in the great cities of those lands. It fled Europe for the wilds of Puritan America and thrived in the fertile soils of the New World, only to be choked out once again by the stony ground of northern industrialism and the growing urban state. Christianity is not just theology, and the sooner we realize and accept that, the faster we will grow into maturity.
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    Do you realize we haven't had a bearded U.S. President in roughly a century (since Teddy Roosevelt, iirc)? Which is why you should support my campaign for President. It's about time we had another beard in the White House.
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    I believe Kevin Swanson believes the same thing...and I have heard pants being sin for similar reasonings as well from others

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    Hmmm, does jungle also equate to "rural" because the morals out here don't seem to be improved any by removal from cities. I am sure the American West was not holier than the Eastern cities. Also, the result of God's curse is that cities would be turned into wastes and deserts, right? And in Revelation, isn't there a City there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.A.G. View Post
    I believe Kevin Swanson believes the same thing...and I have heard pants being sin for similar reasonings as well from others
    I'm not sure that Kevin would say the same things that this fellow is saying. He may point out some benefits in Agrarianism, but Kevin is big on Christians applying Biblical principles where ever they are. I've not heard him promote retreatism.

    RE: the Beard Guy. He is a great example of imbalance shaping the reading of Scripture. I think he missed the fact that there is no epistle written to 'The Called In Christ that Live Down by the Creek that Runs out of Brushy Hollow.' They are all written to churches in cities. And, I say this as a man who vastly prefers a rural lifestyle.
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    It found Reformation in Germany, Switzerland, England and Scotland
    In Wittenberg, Geneva, Oxford, and Edinburgh . . .
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