How about we just think of God's reasoning as an infinite, eternal circle rather than a progressive, linear line and dodge the entire issue.
Seriously though, if we look at God's decree as all things present at all times as opposed to trying to piece the puzzle together in linear logical order then I think it is both and neither, it is perfect.
Or I could just be crazy and illogical in which case....
I think that instead of looking at election as determining the proper order to result in God's glory we should look at God's unchanging character and attributes since His Holiness is responsible for His Desire (IMO). I think this would make justice a result of sin, justice a result of righteousness, and mercy a result of Christ righteousness making mercy just.---INFRALAPSARIANISM
(I like the word INFRA better than SUPRA, I don't like the word SUPERMAN)
It is late and I think all of what I just wrote is probably illogical and crazy in which case you guys can pick it apart while I am refreshed by sleep and come back with a better argument.
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