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| | | Piper's Response to Wright Arrived Today John Piper's The Future of Justification: A Response to N.T. Wright arrived in the mail today. Back cover includes kudos from Peter T. O'Brien, D.A. Carson, Thomas Schreiner, Andreas Kostenberger, Darrell Bock, and Richard Gaffin. It looks interesting! 
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| | | It's a great book. I got mine last Friday and read it over the weekend. | 
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| | | Can you give me the table of contents? Is this a scholarly work or a popular one?
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11-15-2007, 09:31 PM
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| | | Creation: Not all Biblical-Theological Methods and Categories are Illuminating
The Relationship Between Covenant and Law-Court Imagery for Justification
The Law-Court Dynamics of Justification and the Meaning of God's Righteousness
The Law-Court Dynamics of Justification and the Necessity of Real Moral Righteousness
Justification and the Gospel: When Is the Lordship of Jesus Good News?
Justification and the Gospel: Does Justification Determine Our Standing with God?
The Place of Our Works in Justification
Does Wright Say with Different Words What the Reformed Tradition Means by "Imputed Righteousness"?
Paul's Structural Continuity wth Second-Temple Judaism?
The Implications for Justification of the Single Self-Righteous Root of 'Ethnic Badges' and 'Self-Help Moralism"
"That in Him We Might Become the Righteousness of God"
Conclusion
Appendix One - What Does It Mean that Israel Did Not 'Attain the Law Because She Pursued It 'Not by Faith But as Though It Were by Works"?
Appendix Two - Thoughts on LAw and Faith in Galatians 3
Appendix Three - Thoughts on Gal 5;6 and the Relationship Between Faith and Love
Appendix Four - Using the Law Lawfully: Thoughts on 1 Tim 1:5-11
Appendix Five - Does the Doctrine of Imputation of Christ's Righteousness Imply That the Cross Is Insufficient for Our Right Standing with God?
Appendix Six - Twelve Theses on What it Means to Fulfill the Law: With Special Reference to Romans 8:4 | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to DMcFadden For This Useful Post: | | 
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| | | Seems scholarly enough. Thank you. That answered most of my questions. | 
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| | You can download the whole book for FREE from Piper's website: http://www.desiringgod.org/media/pdf/books_bfj/books_bfj.pdf
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11-16-2007, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tellville | Cool! I just keep getting more into Pipers stuff! 
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| | | That was generous of Piper. Thanks for the link, Mark!
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Originally Posted by Jerusalem Blade That was generous of Piper. Thanks for the link, Mark! | Yes, thanks for the link. I don't mind reading a book in print form but would prefer to have it in electronic format for research purposes.
What a difference between Piper and some of the other big church pastors who charge you up the kazoo for an outline or any other resource. Piper has always been quite generous with his books and MP3s. | 
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Originally Posted by tellville | My respect for that man grows more every day.  | 
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| | Wright's response to Piper: Quote:
"Piper is in a different category. He graciously sent me an advance manuscript of his book which is critiquing me and invited my comments on it. I sent him a lengthy set of comments. I’ve only just got on email about two days ago the book in the revised form and I haven’t had a chance to look at it yet. So I cannot say whether he’s being fair or not at this stage.
But I do know that he has done his darndest to be fair and I honor that and I respect that. People have asked me if I’m going to write a response, and the answer is that I don’t know. I’m kind of busy right now. But I maybe should, sooner or later."
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Originally Posted by DMcFadden What a difference between Piper and some of the other big church pastors who charge you up the kazoo for an outline or any other resource. Piper has always been quite generous with his books and MP3s. | It was one of the biggest things that stood out to me when I first came to the doctrines of grace. We can disagree with some of what he says and does, but the guy just has a passionate heart for the Lord and wants to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ. He's willing to give away stuff for free if need be. 
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