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05-08-2008, 05:02 PM
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I picked this book John Calvin Versus the Westminster Confession by Holmes Rolston, III.
Has any body read this book? or know the author?
He argues that:
The Confession in fact abandons Calvin's insistence on the primacy of grace and exchanges it for the primacy of law. Thus the Confession distorts the concept of God, his grace, righteousness, and judgement; the concept of man, his duty, sin, and responsibility; and the concept of Christ, his person and atonement.
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Originally Posted by SolaGratia  I picked this book John Calvin Versus the Westminster Confession by Holmes Rolston, III.
Has any body read this book? or know the author?
He argues that:
The Confession in fact abandons Calvin's insistence on the primacy of grace and exchanges it for the primacy of law. Thus the Confession distorts the concept of God, his grace, righteousness, and judgement; the concept of man, his duty, sin, and responsibility; and the concept of Christ, his person and atonement. | Sounds weird. 
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| | | weird as in not true or what? |
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Originally Posted by SolaGratia weird as in not true? | If what that blurb says is true then Calvin and the WCF are teaching two entirely different theological systems. |
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| | | Yes, I agreed! I want to read and find out what he has to say and find out how he distorts Calvin and the Westminster. I never heard of the author or the book before. |
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| | | sounds like another devotee of the "Calvin vs. the Calvinists" silliness promoted by R. T. Kendall and others - Paul Helm sends Kendall's opinions on this matter to the trash bin in "Calvin and the Calvinists", a neat little book that's worth picking up.
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| | | Calvin and the Calvinists
Hi:
This is an old argument started by R.T. Kendall's book, "Calvin and English Calvinism to 1649." Paul Helm adequately answers the charge that "Calvinists do not truly follow Calvin," in his book, "Calvin and the Calvinists."
Kendall's argument is appreciated among those who are in antipathy to Calvinsim. I think Gerstner picked up the argument and walked with it for a few miles. These books are probably good to read in order to know what the other side is saying.
Just my 
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| | | Both Kendall and Rolston have been promulgated by Profs at PTS. Thanks for the Helm suggestion I'll have to pick it up. |
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| | | R. T. Kendall is weird theologically in my opinion. I have not liked to many quotes I have from him and his book on total forgiveness is junk in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by SolaGratia He argues that:
The Confession in fact abandons Calvin's insistence on the primacy of grace and exchanges it for the primacy of law. | So the Confession insists on the primacy of the Law. How so? What does this guy mean? |
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| | | I wouldn't claim to be an expert on either Westminster or Calvin, but a simple reading of the Confession and Catechisms and the Institutes blows that theory clean out of the water. | | The Following User Says Thank You to py3ak For This Useful Post: | |
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| | | I saw this book in our seminary library when I was a student there. I looked through it. It was a joke (not meant to be a joke, but a joke just the same). |
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Originally Posted by toddpedlar sounds like another devotee of the "Calvin vs. the Calvinists" silliness promoted by R. T. Kendall and others - Paul Helm sends Kendall's opinions on this matter to the trash bin in "Calvin and the Calvinists", a neat little book that's worth picking up. | And Richard Muller has removed the dustbin to the landfill, and shown that tripe for the scandal to scholarship that it is. Anyone these days that ignores Reformation and Post Reformation Reformed Dogmatics (4 vols) is just an embarrassment to the academy. The suggestion that a vast gulf exists between Calvin and his "children" is fodder for the Geneva Comedy Club.
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