Hey Y'all,

In researching the 2009 Year in the Institutes I came across this thread:

• Best Version of Calvin's Institutes

But it looked like there was no strong winner, so would you please answer three simple questions? (Not looking for debate or discussion, just which do you prefer)

1. Beveridge or Battles?
2. Which Bible Translation Do You Use Most?
3. Warfield or Kuyper?

Thank You!

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junior
Deacon
First Baptist Church of Richland Hills, Texas
Owning the 1677 Baptist Confession of Faith, 1680 Orthodox Catechism, & 1693 Baptist Catechism

1) Battles
2) KJV / NIV (but ESV more-and-more)
3) not sure

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Scott
PCA
North Carolina


"Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised)"
Hebrews 10:23

1. McNeill (Westminster/John Knox version)
2. I use ESV and NKJV... I like the Received Text, but prefer the way ESV reads.
3. Warfield.

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Pastor Nathan Eshelman, Los Angeles, CA
Reformed Presbyterian Church
PRESBYTERIAN THOUGHTS
Los Angeles Reformed Presbyterian Church
RPCLA Sermons Online
Puritan Reformed Seminary

1. Battles
2. NASB
3. Warfield

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Lance G. Marshall
Pastor
Georgetown, Indiana

1. Battles
2. KJV
3. Warfield

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John T. Dyck
Pastor, Edmonton Bible Presbyterian Church
www.edmontonbpc.org
www.bpc.org
www.shortercatechism.com

1. Beveridge
2. Lately, ESV but I prefer KJV (it's just that my church seems to like ESV).
3. Warfield

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Sterling Harmon
Presbyterian Church of Coventry (PCA)
Coventry, CT
Deacon
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"Whatever is laudable in our works proceeds from the grace of God."
-- John Calvin, Institutes III:xv.3.

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INSTITUTES OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION by JOHN CALVIN

Translated by HENRY BEVERIDGE

1957 WM. B. EERDMANS PUBLISHING COMPANY
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THE HOLY BIBLE CONTANING THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS

Translated out of the original tongues
and with the former translations
diligently compared and revised

BY HIS MAJESTY'S SPECIAL COMMAND

Appointed to be read in Churches

Authorised (King James) Version

Printed by Authority
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PARTICULAR GRACE

A Defence of
God's Sovereignty
in Salvation

by Abraham Kuyper

translated from the Dutch
by Marvin Kemps

Reformed Free Publishing Association
Grandville, Michigan

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1. Battles (this shouldn't even be in question)
2. ESV
3. Kuyper, but this blog post isn't even close to accurate:

"The result of Kuyper's thinking is an insipid anti-intellectualism that makes Christianity nonsense and surrenders the intellect to the world."

Says who? Kuyper did not think so, neither did Bavinck or Van Til who followed substantially (though not totally) on the antithesis. Kuyper's views of common grace, which aren't even mentioned here, supplemented his views on the noetic affects of sin and the antithesis. Does this author even care to understand the Dutch position??? He is clearly a disciple of Gordon Clark.

This post doesn't even quote a primary source of Kuyper. It only cites Kuypers words via Heslam, yet it provides an entire article of Warfield verbatim. This is a shoddy, second-rate analysis of a highly nuanced neo-Calvinistic position. The blogger may not agree with Kuyper's exposition of de wetenschap (science), but at least he should try to understand it.

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Rev. JR HARRIS
Assistant Pastor
Redeemer Community Church (PCA)
O'Fallon, IL

I prefer the 2008 revised Beveridge for The Institutes.

The new ESV Study Bible, 2007 ESV text edition.

Warfield, of course.

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Patrick
Member, PCA
Chandler, AZ
ReformedTheologyInstitute.com

I fear explanations explanatory of things explained.

-----Added 12/19/2008 at 08:20:06 EST-----

I hadn't heard of this, I"ll have to look for it.
Thanks!

There is a water ring on my copy of institutes. You see, I was involved in some battles that caused me to spill my beveridge...

Theognome

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Bill Cunningham
Covenant Reformed Church, URC
Kansas City
There are three kinds of people- those who can count, and those who can't.

Boooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! Hiiiiiiiisssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You all are blowing my assumptions out of the water.
I assumed Beveridge=KJV=Warfield - y'all are all over the map!

Thank you!

Battles
KJV
Warfield

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Briant Holley
Grace Reformed Baptist Church;
Husband to Barbara, Father of Alexis, Justin, and Lacey
Silver Creek, MS

1. Battles (edited by McNeill)
2. KJV
3. Warfield

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Chris
Presbyterian Reformed Church of Charlotte (PRC)
Student, Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary
SC

...hope is nothing but the nourishment and strength of faith.
~ Calvin's Institutes III.ii.43

Battles
NKJV/KJV
Warfield

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Ivan R. Schoen, B.A., M.A., M.L.I.S.
Pastor of Maranatha Baptist Church (SBC)
Poplar Grove, IL, USA
http://maranatha-sbc.org

Battles
ESV
Warfield

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Lukester
Seminary Student
Pilgrim OPC
Bangor, ME

Romans 8:28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good,for those who are called according to his purpose.

1. Beveridge. Because I highlighted it and did not want to mark up my good hardback Battles version.
2.ESV
3. Hodge/Turretin

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Erick Bohndorf, Redeemer Presbyterian PCA
http://qayaqtraveler.blogspot.com/
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Here is what I have seen to be good and fitting: to eat, to drink and enjoy oneself in all one’s labor in which he toils under the sun during the few years of his life which God has given him; for this is his reward. Ecclesiastes

1) Beveridge

2) NKJV/NAB

3) Kuyper

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Benjamin P. Glaser, M. Div, Licentiate, Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church
Member Fairmount ARP Church
Pittsburgh, PA

Deo Vindice

Ha! Nicely done, Sir!

-Battles
-NASB/NKJV
-Warfield

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Jim
1689 LBCF
Independent Bible Church
North Texas, USA

1. Battles
2. ESV
3. No translation (the latin and the french).

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Jeff Wyman
Man Under Care
Little Farms Chapel OPC, Coopersville, MI
Puritan Reformed Theological Seminary

"Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other." - Isaiah 45:22 (ESV)

1. Battles
2. Lately ESV, but I prefer KJV (it's just that my church uses ESV in PW).
3. Warfield

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Carlos Eduardo de Oliveira
Member
Presbyterian Church in Aluminio
Mairinque, São Paulo, Brazil

Beveridge
ESV
Both

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Boliver
Future Chaplain
EPC
Hankamer, TX

1. Battles/McNeill
2. 1611 AV
3. Kuyper

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x

1) Battles
2) HCSB/Geneva
3) Warfield

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Johnathan Tate
Cornerstone Presbyterian Church (OPC), Arden, NC

Husband of one, father of 3 (1 in-utero); Time's "Man of the Year" 2006

Beveridge. When Richard Muller is pleased to quote a translation of Calvin instead of citing the original, he used Beveridge. If something is unclear you can always compare Battles.

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Ruben
Moderator
F.P.C.I.
Indiana

Vanities and disguises have covered us, and thereby we are naked; licenciousness hath inflam'd us, and thereby we are frozen; voluptuousness hath fed us, and thereby we are sterved, the fancies and traditions of men have taught and instructed us, and thereby we are ignorant.
John Donne

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Calvinistas Conversando
Teología en Mexico
The Howling Wilderness

Battles, but that's just because I bought it 25 years ago. No passionate loyalty.

ESV, NKJ etc...

Pay particular attention to the post by Logopneumatika. I noticed the same unfairness in the linked blog.

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Tim Vaughan
Member, Redeemer Presbyterian, OPC,
Santa Maria
California