Puritanboard Freshman
Hey Y'all,
In researching the 2009 Year in the Institutes I came across this thread:But it looked like there was no strong winner, so would you please answer three simple questions? (Not looking for debate or discussion, just which do you prefer)
- Beveridge or Battles?
- Which Bible Translation Do You Use Most?
- Warfield or Kuyper?
Thank You!
Enrique "Big Dipper" Duran, Jr.
Covenantal Baptist
First Baptist Church of Richland Hills, Texas
Owning the 1677 Baptist Confession of Faith, 1680 Orthodox Catechism, & 1693 Baptist Catechism
Puritanboard Doctor
1) Battles
2) KJV / NIV (but ESV more-and-more)
3) not sure
Scott
PCA
North Carolina
"Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised)"
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eqdj (12-19-2008)
Puritanboard Junior
1. McNeill (Westminster/John Knox version)
2. I use ESV and NKJV... I like the Received Text, but prefer the way ESV reads.
3. Warfield.
Pastor Nathan Eshelman, Los Angeles, CA
Reformed Presbyterian Church
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Los Angeles Reformed Presbyterian Church
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eqdj (12-19-2008)
Puritanboard Junior
1. Battles
2. NASB
3. Warfield
Lance G. Marshall
Pastor
Georgetown, Indiana
eqdj (12-19-2008)
Puritanboard Freshman
1. Battles
2. KJV
3. Warfield
John T. Dyck
Pastor, Edmonton Bible Presbyterian Church
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www.shortercatechism.com
eqdj (12-19-2008)
Puritanboard Graduate
1. Beveridge
2. Lately, ESV but I prefer KJV (it's just that my church seems to like ESV).
3. Warfield
Sterling Harmon
Presbyterian Church of Coventry (PCA)
Coventry, CT
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eqdj (12-19-2008)
Puritanboard Freshman
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INSTITUTES OF THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION by JOHN CALVIN
Translated by HENRY BEVERIDGE
1957 WM. B. EERDMANS PUBLISHING COMPANY
___________________________________________
THE HOLY BIBLE CONTANING THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS
Translated out of the original tongues
and with the former translations
diligently compared and revised
BY HIS MAJESTY'S SPECIAL COMMAND
Appointed to be read in Churches
Authorised (King James) Version
Printed by Authority
___________________________________________
PARTICULAR GRACE
A Defence of
God's Sovereignty
in Salvation
by Abraham Kuyper
translated from the Dutch
by Marvin Kemps
Reformed Free Publishing Association
Grandville, Michigan
___________________________________________
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eqdj (12-19-2008)
Puritanboard Freshman
1. Battles (this shouldn't even be in question)
2. ESV
3. Kuyper, but this blog post isn't even close to accurate:
"The result of Kuyper's thinking is an insipid anti-intellectualism that makes Christianity nonsense and surrenders the intellect to the world."
Says who? Kuyper did not think so, neither did Bavinck or Van Til who followed substantially (though not totally) on the antithesis. Kuyper's views of common grace, which aren't even mentioned here, supplemented his views on the noetic affects of sin and the antithesis. Does this author even care to understand the Dutch position??? He is clearly a disciple of Gordon Clark.
This post doesn't even quote a primary source of Kuyper. It only cites Kuypers words via Heslam, yet it provides an entire article of Warfield verbatim. This is a shoddy, second-rate analysis of a highly nuanced neo-Calvinistic position. The blogger may not agree with Kuyper's exposition of de wetenschap (science), but at least he should try to understand it.
Rev. JR HARRIS
Assistant Pastor
Redeemer Community Church (PCA)
O'Fallon, IL
Puritanboard Sophomore
I prefer the 2008 revised Beveridge for The Institutes.Originally Posted by eqdj
The new ESV Study Bible, 2007 ESV text edition.
Warfield, of course.
Patrick
Member, PCA
Chandler, AZ
Reformed Theology Institute
TNARS Faculty Mentor
I fear explanations explanatory of things explained.
eqdj (12-19-2008)
Puritanboard Freshman
-----Added 12/19/2008 at 08:20:06 EST-----
I hadn't heard of this, I"ll have to look for it.
Thanks!
Enrique "Big Dipper" Duran, Jr.
Covenantal Baptist
First Baptist Church of Richland Hills, Texas
Owning the 1677 Baptist Confession of Faith, 1680 Orthodox Catechism, & 1693 Baptist Catechism
Puritanboard Graduate
There is a water ring on my copy of institutes. You see, I was involved in some battles that caused me to spill my beveridge...
Theognome
Bill Cunningham
Covenant Reformed Church, URC
Kansas City
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Galatians220 (12-19-2008), Hamalas (12-19-2008), moral necessity (12-19-2008), Presbyterian Deacon (12-20-2008)
Puritanboard Junior
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Pastor Nathan Eshelman, Los Angeles, CA
Reformed Presbyterian Church
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Los Angeles Reformed Presbyterian Church
RPCLA Sermons Online
Puritan Reformed Seminary
Puritanboard Freshman
You all are blowing my assumptions out of the water.
I assumed Beveridge=KJV=Warfield - y'all are all over the map!
Thank you!
Enrique "Big Dipper" Duran, Jr.
Covenantal Baptist
First Baptist Church of Richland Hills, Texas
Owning the 1677 Baptist Confession of Faith, 1680 Orthodox Catechism, & 1693 Baptist Catechism
Puritanboard Freshman
Battles
KJV
Warfield
Briant Holley
Grace Reformed Baptist Church;
Husband to Barbara, Father of Alexis, Justin, and Lacey
Silver Creek, MS
eqdj (12-19-2008)
Puritanboard Junior
1. Battles (edited by McNeill)
2. KJV
3. Warfield
Chris M.
Presbyterian Reformed Church of Charlotte (PRC)
Student, Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary
SC
...hope is nothing but the nourishment and strength of faith.
~ Calvin's Institutes III.ii.43
eqdj (12-19-2008)
Pastor
Battles
NKJV/KJV
Warfield
eqdj (12-19-2008)
Puritanboard Freshman
Battles
ESV
Warfield
Lukester
Seminary Student
Pilgrim OPC
Bangor, ME
Romans 8:28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good,for those who are called according to his purpose.
eqdj (12-20-2008)
Puritanboard Junior
1. Beveridge. Because I highlighted it and did not want to mark up my good hardback Battles version.
2.ESV
3. Hodge/Turretin
Erick Bohndorf, Redeemer Presbyterian PCA
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eqdj (12-20-2008)
Puritanboard Doctor
1) Beveridge
2) NKJV/NAB
3) Kuyper
Benjamin P. Glaser, M. Div, Licentiate, Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church
Ruling Elder Fairmount ARP Church
Pittsburgh, PA
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eqdj (12-20-2008)
Puritanboard Freshman
Ha! Nicely done, Sir!1. Beveridge. Because I highlighted it and did not want to mark up my good hardback Battles version.
3. Hodge/Turretin
Enrique "Big Dipper" Duran, Jr.
Covenantal Baptist
First Baptist Church of Richland Hills, Texas
Owning the 1677 Baptist Confession of Faith, 1680 Orthodox Catechism, & 1693 Baptist Catechism
Puritanboard Senior
-Battles
-NASB/NKJV
-Warfield
Jim
1689 LBCF
Independent Bible Church
North Texas, USA
eqdj (12-20-2008)
Puritanboard Sophomore
1. Battles
2. ESV
3. No translation (the latin and the french).
Jeff Wyman
Man Under Care
Little Farms Chapel OPC, Coopersville, MI
Puritan Reformed Theological Seminary
"Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other." - Isaiah 45:22 (ESV)
eqdj (12-20-2008)
Puritanboard Freshman
1. Battles
2. Lately ESV, but I prefer KJV (it's just that my church uses ESV in PW).
3. Warfield
Carlos Eduardo de Oliveira
Member
Presbyterian Church in Aluminio
Mairinque, São Paulo, Brazil
eqdj (12-20-2008)
Puritanboard Junior
Beveridge
ESV
Both
Boliver
Future Chaplain
Under Care in the EPC
Hankamer, TX
Eschew obfuscation, espouse elucidation John 14:6
eqdj (12-20-2008)
Puritanboard Sophomore
1. Battles/McNeill
2. 1611 AV
3. Kuyper
x
Puritanboard Sophomore
1) Battles
2) HCSB/Geneva
3) Warfield
Johnathan Tate
Cornerstone Presbyterian Church (OPC), Arden, NC
Husband of one, father of 3 (1 in-utero); Time's "Man of the Year" 2006
eqdj (12-20-2008)
Use Bat Lip Balm
Beveridge. When Richard Muller is pleased to quote a translation of Calvin instead of citing the original, he used Beveridge. If something is unclear you can always compare Battles.
Ruben
Moderator
F.P.C.I.
Indiana
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eqdj (12-22-2008)
Puritanboard Botanist
Battles, but that's just because I bought it 25 years ago. No passionate loyalty.
ESV, NKJ etc...
Pay particular attention to the post by Logopneumatika. I noticed the same unfairness in the linked blog.
Tim Vaughan
Member, Redeemer Presbyterian, OPC,
Santa Maria
California
eqdj (12-22-2008), Logopneumatika (12-21-2008)
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