Here.

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Rev. Lane Keister
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So...? Is there more to come in this case or is that it? That seems to be an anti-climactic conclusion if there is no more to follow. Forgive me if I have missed something.

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Rev. Adam King
Minister without a call (WPCUS)
Stated Supply: Reformed Presbyterian Church
Sterling, KS

The climax was when the Presbytery pled guilty to the substance charge. Of course, there are still two FV sympathetic pastors in the Presbytery (Duane Garner and Mark Duncan). Furthermore, AAPC and Wilkins have left. There is nothing more to come.

I would bet that there are folks over in the Carolina's that are cooking something up.

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Bedford, TX

Job 28:28 - And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

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Can they cook something up for Missouri Presbytery or Pacific NW? Maybe a similar result could happen in quicker and nicer fashion.

Duane Garner is an elder at AAPC. I bet he is probably in the CREC now. To my knowledge he is neither a pastor nor a member of the LA PCA.
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J. B. Atken
John Knox PCA
Layman, M.A. student at Louisiana College

What is an 'FV sympathizer'? Is it someone who agrees with FV, or someone who does not agree but doesn't think it is that big of a deal?

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Actually, Lane, Duane has left.

As of the Feb. 9 LaP meeting, which I discussed in my piece "LaP Hardens," he was there, and the comments on that focus on him taking me to task over whether LaP could get a "fair" trial at SJC.

But he withdrew the next day. The LaP has not met since his withdrawal.

Sorry for not keeping you posted on that.

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HaigLaw, ruling elder
Grace PCA, Shreveport, LA
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When I was in grad school it was someone who did not pronounce Shibboleth correctly. It wasn't good enough just to say FV was wrong, you had to say they were heretical. Even if you said they were heretical, that didn't count if you also said Bahnsen is good, for example.

Thanks, Lane for your work in this. I feel like you should have your own news show on CBS.

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Stephen Welch
PCA Teaching Elder
Nova Scotia

Is there something happening in Pacific NW Presbytery? I was not aware of anything, but then there are pockets of this everywhere.

At one time the clerk of the AAPC session was also the clerk of LA Presbytery, so is he still in the PCA?

If you know who it specifically was, I might be able to help you. Normally if the clerk of the session remained in good standing membership with AAPC, it is likely that he went with them into the CREC and is no longer the moderator of the Presbytery. But I confess a degree of ignorance on these matters.

Several years ago the Pacific NW Presbytery tried Leithart's views, found them non-heretical and thus exonerated him. Andrew's comment has reference to the fact that Peter Leithart was (is? I don't know) in the Pac NW.

I believe his last name was Peabody.

Close enough. Since he is a good friend of mine, and a man of integrity, I don't really want to disclose names nor speak of him in an informal forum. I know who you are talking about. I am sure he went with the church when they switched denominations. But to be honest, I don't know. I haven't seen him in a while.

I did not realize this, Jacob. Thanks for the information. You are attending John Knox PCA. Were you there when Jeffrey Steele was still the teaching elder? He is now an Anglican Priest under N.T Wright. It was very sad. I wondered if any of the ruling elders who were on the session with him are still at Knox? Jeffrey left or was defrocked in 2005, I believe.

Yes.

No. I visited there 3 1/2 years ago (or something like that) and that was the current pastor's first sunday. I then moved to Jackson for 2 years and eventually came back to live near Monroe, LA.

Yes, Jacob you are correct on Peter Leithart. I checked the current PCA ministerial directory and he is still a member of Pacific NW Presbytery, but he is laboring out of bounds at St. Andrews College with the FV Pope, Doug Wilson. What a shame that the Presbytery never found his views to be problematic. You wonder who is in that Presbytery.

I really don't wonder. The FV should have never gotten as big as it did. It is conceptually abstract and represents a microcosm of an already tiny group (e.g., the Reformed church). People should have ignored it from day one and it would have been relegated to obscurity. Instead, everyone wanted to be Luther and Machen and look what we got now.

Also, fwiw, even though I disagree with Dr Leithart on FV, I love most all of his works.

The Stated Clerk of LA Presbytery was a Ruling Elder. He was also clerk of AAPC. He resigned as Stated Clerk of the Presbytery at the same time that the church withdrew and TE Wilkins withdrew.

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Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA (Katy, TX)
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