Speaking as a PCA member who disbelieves in the Federal Vision and all its works, I am not leaving or refusing to obey the PCA hierarchy. I'm sure, if NWP persists in this wrong direction, the PCA will deal with it. However, as this is technically a church-court case which isn't over till it's over, we might want to speak circumspectly, as I did not do earlier, pray and await the next development.

Originally Posted by Davidius

There's a difference between saying that people did something wrong, and saying that they were puppets and zoo animals. The latter imputes all kinds of motivation which may or may not exist, not to mention general ignorance and foolishness. Reformed folk often err in thinking that anyone who disagrees is either stupid or consciously deceitful, and it's just not the case.

What is the case, however, is that certain people on this board are allowed to speak however they wish with impunity, whereas others, past and present, are immediately jumped on by the moderators for the same kinds of infractions.

Moderator Note: David, being privy to the off line communications between the mods, I can say that a good bit of agonizing goes into the moderation process. Some of those who seem to "get away with it" are precisely the ones who are admonished repeatedly in PMs, etc. I cannot think of a single post (let alone a thread) that has not been talked to death in a moderator only forum when the language gets rough. Personally, most of my younger years were spent tilting at windmills and agitating in my mainline denomination. It took me decades to learn to curb my tongue (even this much - ) and try to shine more light and create less heat from the friction of my factious personality. Usually, the people who appear to "get away with it" are special cases where insider insight into the person's situation mititgates a heavy handed moderation.

That being said, this is the PB and we DO take Ninth Commandment violations seriously. Everyone, please take that into account when characterizing the positions and motives of others. But, David, as Rich pointed out recently, iron-sharpening-iron can be expected to throw off a few sparks.