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01-31-2008, 10:50 PM
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| | | Anne, what you say is true. And I think that confirms my original thesis. If seminary training doesn't guarantee competence it is absurd to point to Wilson's lack of it as an explanation for his incompetence. It's easy to shoot Wilson down on that score; but that technique fails when you come over to Leithart or Meyers or Jordan or Norm Shepherd. Not only that, but it's not too hard to make it backfire with a rhetorical appeal to the fact that it was the seminary trained theologians who opposed the apostolic preaching of Christ.
And that is why I think that heresy (and often error) is a moral, not an intellectual problem. Servetus seems to have been recognized as quite brilliant, after all. |
01-31-2008, 11:07 PM
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While I firmly disagree with FV, I have trouble reading Robbins' stuff since the same man said Van Til denied the Trinity. So if we are calling someone a damnable heretic, and it comes from Robbins, forgive me if I take it with a grain of salt.
And yes, I do listen to John Robbins' lectures for profit on other topics.
| Do you have a reference to his accusation that VanTil denied the Trinity because I have been on his mailing list and have never heard this before? I agree with you that he is not VanTillian but he is presuppositional. Robbins holds to the teachings of Gordon's Clark and certainly would oppose VanTil. | Read his booklet Van Til: The Man and the Myth | 
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02-01-2008, 06:12 AM
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And that is why I think that heresy (and often error) is a moral, not an intellectual problem. Servetus seems to have been recognized as quite brilliant, after all.
|  Heretics are usually those too smart for most of us. I ain't clever enough for their sophistries.
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02-02-2008, 06:31 PM
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| | | While I am under the impression FV theology is heretical (I have neither the time nor the brain power to really comprehend this mess), I was actually unimpressed by "Not Reformed At All." I may have to reread it again, but from what I remember though, it seemed like more than have the time was spent attacking the person of Doug Wilson. I walked away still not really understanding what Wilson actually believed and the solid critiques of those beliefs.
Of course, I walked away from skimming through most of Reformed is Not Enough thinking that was silly. Though I did think that Her Hand in Marriage was quite intriquing.
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