Sounds good. I will meet you in Atlanta.

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Stephen Welch
PCA Teaching Elder
Nova Scotia

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Dan Pemberton
Vacaville, CA

Member, First Baptist Church San Luis Obispo
Formerly ABUSA (We left, so I guess that makes us American Baptists Unleashed!)

I have a solution to settling this debate. I recommend that we appoint a committee of five brothers to approach Michael Horton and ask him why he recommended the book. The committee would report their findings to all of us in this discussion and that should settle our concerns. I recommend that we appoint Jacob to be the chairman of this committee. Do I hear a second on appointing a committee of five with Jacob as the Chairman?

Is this book part of the series of academic books by Horton that are published by WJK press? If so that may have something to do with it.

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Chris Poe--Attending Grace Community Baptist Church, Mandeville, LA

"There never was a man in the world without a creed. What is a creed? A creed is what you believe. What is a confession? It is a declaration of what you believe. That declaration may be oral or it may be committed to writing, but the creed is there either expressed or implied."—B.H. Carroll

You Presby brothers sure do like committees, don't you? Why doesn't someone who knows Dr. Horton simply e-mail him and ask the question?

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Dennis E. McFadden, Ex Mainline Baptist (in Remission)
Atherton Baptist Homes, CEO
First Baptist Church of Alhambra, Member, Transformation Ministries (CA)

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If elected, I will not serve.

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J. B. Atken
John Knox PCA
Layman, M.A. student at Louisiana College

Conspiracy theory theology is a lot more exciting.

I am in favor of that, but don't we need to appoint someone to email him?

Yeah, it's almost as exciting as conspiracy theory politics!

touche!

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)

Who here has even read the book?

I have read other non-FV stuff by Leithart so I felt qualified to talk. I probably won't read the book because I am not interested in Pomo right now (although I have a book seller in town, and if the book is under ten dollars, I will read it).

For better or worse, I have read the book (just finished it today). It was interesting. It corrected some misunderstandings I had about postmodernism, and pointed me to some critiques of it that I haven't seen anyone else raise (for instance, pomo lives in sustained anti-climax because while following Marxist categories, it denies a Marxist--or any--eschatology. The end result for a pomo is an eternal dystopia).

I didn't see anything radical in the book. I looked hard for denials of justification by faith, and found none. Likewise, while it was a good book, if that were the only book someone had read by Leithart, it is doubtful they would come to the conclusion, "Wow, I must read everything this guy has written." It was good, but not that good.

Extra thoughts:
The critique of democracy was quite good.
The reading of hebel as vapor, instead of vanity, made better sense of Ecclesiastes. Think: If God is a God of order and meaning, and his universe has meaning because it is his universe, then it seems counter-productive for holy writ to say it is meaningless.

I would give the book 4/5 stars.

Kevin J. Vanhoozer has done excellent work on postmoderinism and its inroads into hermeneutics and meaning. He's a brilliant theologian.

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J.J.
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I just started reading Vanhoozer and listening to his messages. Very good stuff.

This one's also a good resource.

The Cambridge Companion to Postmodern Theology - Cambridge University Press

It's next on my list.



Paul,
How many of the "Cambridge Companion" series would you might have? They have always looked interesting but I have never bought one.

Only a few. I happen to like the Blackwell Companions and the Oxford Handbooks a lot.

I just started this page a couple months ago, and I'm just getting started loading things on to it, but you can ckeck out some of my books on my good reads site:

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