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Federal Vision/New Perspectives Discussion of the various innovations regarding justification (New Perspective on Paul, Federal Vision, Shepherdism)

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Old 07-24-2009, 04:01 PM
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That video is plain stupid. Paul Washer mixing law and gospel? Yes, he does point people to the law... SO THEY SEE THEIR NEED FOR THE GOSPEL.
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I'm sorry, but I just can't get over the fact that the two guys look like lego men!
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I think this is an example of having *some* truthful things, having some unhelpful things to say, and being incredibly uncharitable in the execution of both.
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lego man 1 has a 5 o clock shadow! Someone get Mr Lego a bic.
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That was darn funny and somewhat truthful.
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What are the "truthful things" in the video? I haven't read "future grace." Is what they say about Piper true. What about Washer?
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Old 07-25-2009, 12:32 AM
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OK, I found the old thread about Piper and Wilson and the FV. I was out of town that week (and the thread was closed in a day) and so I had no idea about this. I am shocked!
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