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Old 01-11-2008, 04:11 PM
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Doug Wilson on Worldview

What does Wilson believe concerning worldview?

He is here in Jackson and I want to know if I want to go hear him tomorrow.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:18 PM
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Can you be more specific?

I imagine he would be in large agreement with Hoffecker's books on worldview. Creator-creature distinction, creation ex nihilo, supremacy of Scripture, etc.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:25 PM
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I don't know. So no, I just know he is speaking in town and want to know if I should go hear him or not.

Would he say anything that would be good or controversial?
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:28 PM
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Why would you not go hear him?
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I dont know if I really want to go sit and hear someone speak on worldview on a Friday night, especially if it is Doug Wilson who I personally believe to be heterodox.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:40 PM
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I dont know if I really want to go sit and hear someone speak on worldview on a Friday night, especially if it is Doug Wilson who I personally believe to be heterodox.
I spent a Friday evening listening to N. T. Wright. I'm glad that I went. It was a "horse's mouth" experience. (If that makes sense.)
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:43 PM
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It does, but worldview is so much more boring.

If it was, you know, Baptism, Covenant Theology, etc. I'd be there in a heartbeat.
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It does, but worldview is so much more boring.

If it was, you know, Baptism, Covenant Theology, etc. I'd be there in a heartbeat.
Worldview, boring? I guess it's a matter of taste. I'd go regardless - he's likely to be quite good on the subject I think.

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ps - I gather he's not speaking at First Pres.
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He is speaking at the old sanctuary of a baptist church hosted by a CREC church in town.
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I'd go hear him.
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But you are best friends with him Lane...
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Worldview is exciting. It provides a launching pad to angle at many different loci in theology and experience. So what on what he says elsewhere? This is likely to be good. Personally, I would go hear someone like John Milbank speak even though I really, really disagree with him on some parts.
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If I had the authority I would...

I personally, dont believe we should be friends with such people.
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Did you go hear him?
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No but I heard some stuff from my friend who went. I had to stay home with my wife.
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I had to stay home with my wife.
No offense intended here, but you 'had' to stay home with your wife or you 'had the pleasure of staying home with your wife instead"???
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I had to stay home with my wife.
No offense intended here, but you 'had' to stay home with your wife or you 'had the pleasure of staying home with your wife instead"???
Well, I said what I said. 'I had to' because I had to as my duty and a rule of my house that my wife and I set...is what I particularly was referencing (That we have a date night every friday).

However, it was a pleasure being with her, but that wasn't what I was referencing because I was talking about a reason why I stayed home not what I did while I was at home. If you want me to go into further specifics about my home life, I will have to refrain since it is a private matter.
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Well, I said what I said. 'I had to' because I had to as my duty and a rule of my house that my wife and I set...is what I particularly was referencing (That we have a date night every friday).

However, it was a pleasure being with her, but that wasn't what I was referencing because I was talking about a reason why I stayed home not what I did while I was at home. If you want me to go into further specifics about my home life, I will have to refrain since it is a private matter.
I wasn't meaning any offense, and I'm sorry if it came across that way, please forgive me for that.
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I didn't think you did at all.
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So is Doug wilson considered apostate? Heretic? What? I don't have a very good understanding of the NPP and its seriousness.
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So is Doug wilson considered apostate? Heretic? What? I don't have a very good understanding of the NPP and its seriousness.
Technically speaking, he is not NPP. And words like "apostate" and "heretic" have been used beyond all usefulness in this debate.
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I figured as much. Will a comparison help?

Does:

Doug Wilson = Joel Osteen

Doug Wilson = Bishop Spong

Doug Wilson = Billy Graham

Basically, is he WAAAY out there or is he just a bit different?
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He is out of accord with the Westminster Standards!
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