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05-30-2008, 06:40 PM
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I have seen Doug Wilson's books on the book table in a couple of churches and knew that he was a Federal Vision guy so I wondered if his books on the family were good or bad or tainted with his Federal Vision views.
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I think his book "Fidelity" should be read by every husband. I am not an expert at the differences between orthodox presbyterianism and FV, but I do not remember anything strange in his theology.
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Pretty much all of them are real good. I will probably lose Puritan points for saying that. Angels in the Archictecture was fantastic. Reforming Marriage was basic, but good. Same with Federal Husband. I read them all about 3 years ago. Forgot much of what they said but I didn't see the proposition "I deny sola fide."
His book on sexuality wasn't all that its cracked up to be. It was good, as far as the basics of fidelity go, but I wasn't impressed.
His book on coutship (Her Hand in Marriage was real good.
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His books on the family are great; though the one on the Federal Husband has traces of his mono-covenantalism in it.
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His book on the church (something like Mother Kirk ) was excellent, though there are traces of the current debates in it. But even then, it is too good to simply dismiss.
His stuff on education is ok. It is good in what it originally set out to do (popularize Rushdoony regarding Christian education). I am still not impressed with the classical model.
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His stuff on education is ok. It is good in what it originally set out to do (popularize Rushdoony regarding Christian education). I am still not impressed with the classical model.
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It's alright saying "just read the Puritans" but we need modern books, written by modern authors, on these themes.
If Reformed theologians would get out of their Calvinistic cloisters, and start writing stuff for people in the real world, we would all be a lot better served.
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Originally Posted by Daniel Ritchie It's alright saying "just read the Puritans" but we need modern books, written by modern authors, on these themes.
If Reformed theologians would get out of their Calvinistic cloisters, and start writing stuff for people in the real world, we would all be a lot better served. | Firstly, I didn't say just read the Puritans. But also the Puritanesque, which would include modern day Theologs (particularly those who've read the Puritans).
Secondly, speak for yourself (and I'll speak for myself), but I've profited more from the Puritans than any modern day writer. Unless your trudging through Owen or the like on some Doctrinal Treatise, the Puritans are excellent and very understandable writers on all things family.  |
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Originally Posted by Daniel Ritchie It's alright saying "just read the Puritans" but we need modern books, written by modern authors, on these themes.
If Reformed theologians would get out of their Calvinistic cloisters, and start writing stuff for people in the real world, we would all be a lot better served. | Firstly, I didn't say just read the Puritans. But also the Puritanesque, which would include modern day Theologs (particularly those who've read the Puritans).
Secondly, speak for yourself (and I'll speak for myself), but I've profited more from the Puritans than any modern day writer. Unless your trudging through Owen or the like on some Doctrinal Treatise, the Puritans are excellent and very understandable writers on all things family. | Yes, but who are the average lay person more likely to read: a Puritan, or a modern writer? Moreover, things need to be updated and refined.
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Originally Posted by Daniel Ritchie It's alright saying "just read the Puritans" but we need modern books, written by modern authors, on these themes.
If Reformed theologians would get out of their Calvinistic cloisters, and start writing stuff for people in the real world, we would all be a lot better served. | Firstly, I didn't say just read the Puritans. But also the Puritanesque, which would include modern day Theologs (particularly those who've read the Puritans).
Secondly, speak for yourself (and I'll speak for myself), but I've profited more from the Puritans than any modern day writer. Unless your trudging through Owen or the like on some Doctrinal Treatise, the Puritans are excellent and very understandable writers on all things family. | Yes, but who are the average lay person more likely to read: a Puritan, or a modern writer? Moreover, things need to be updated and refined. | DUDE! Again, I did not restrict the reading to the Puritans alone.  |
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Yes, they are very good.
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Better choices: anything by the Tripps, Powlison, Welch and company!!!
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Originally Posted by KenPierce Better choices: anything by the Tripps, Powlison, Welch and company!!! | Are they better books? The men might be better, but what about the content?
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My pastor is a big fan of Doug Wilson from what I've seen. *shrug* I've never read anything by him myself, out of fear of being undiscerning.
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Originally Posted by KenPierce Better choices: anything by the Tripps, Powlison, Welch and company!!! | Are they better books? The men might be better, but what about the content? | Daniel,
One must remember that Wilson is not the one and only Reformed person to write well on family issues.
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Originally Posted by KenPierce Better choices: anything by the Tripps, Powlison, Welch and company!!! | Are they better books? The men might be better, but what about the content? | Daniel,
One must remember that Wilson is not the one and only Reformed person to write well on family issues.
CT | True enough; but has anyone written anything better than him? Nearly everyone I know who has read any of the Wilson Family series books cannot praise them highly enough.
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Originally Posted by KenPierce Better choices: anything by the Tripps, Powlison, Welch and company!!! |
I agree with these excellent choices. I do not recommend Wilson's books on the family anymore because of his denial of the covenant of works, expecially in his Federal Husband.
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What would y'all recommend then?
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Originally Posted by Backwoods Presbyterian What would y'all recommend then? | Doug Wilson's books. Or Jay Adams, whom Wilson popularizes.
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Originally Posted by KenPierce Better choices: anything by the Tripps, Powlison, Welch and company!!! | Are they better books? The men might be better, but what about the content? | Well, I guess you have to read them and judge for yourself.
The ones written by the Tripps on childrearing are grace-filled and practical to boot.
The CCEF of Philadelphia is putting out excellent, consistently Reformed, and grace-oriented stuff. May their tribe increase!!!
I have a hard time separating Wilson the daddy and Wilson the husband from Wilson the sect leader and Wilson the heterodox theologian.
MAybe it's just me. 
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