I found this Here and wondered if anyone would be able to confirm it?

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It apparently was first announced on the Yahoo OPC group here . (Like rtdisc, only viewable if you are a group member). Given the source (my pastor) I'd say that it's pretty much a lead pipe cinch that it must be true. He's not going to get out on front on something like this unless it is true.

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Wow. Thats one way to avoid a trial...I wonder if there were any dissenting votes?

Uhhh, can you post the message for those of us unable to view it?

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Here's basically the same message on a forum that has publicly viewable archives.

Nothing on the AAPC website that I can find so far.

My browser isn't accepting their cookies, or something. Can someone please just post it? Is it just a Yahoo thing?

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The link to the Warfield list I posted in post #5 of this thread should work. The other lists have private archives viewable only to group members, similar to our private forums here.

Does the PCA BCO allow for such a withdrawal? I'm comparing it to the OPC BCO, where ordinarily the presbytery must be informed of an intent to withdraw, and there must be two congregational meetings at least 3 weeks apart where a vote to withdraw passes and the presbytery is allowed to weigh in as well as make provisions for those who wish to remain in the OPC.

After looking up the PCA BCO, I guess it does:

"Particular churches need remain in association with any court of this
body only so long as they themselves so desire. The relationship is
voluntary, based upon mutual love and confidence, and is in no sense to be
maintained by the exercise of any force or coercion whatsoever. A particular
church may withdraw from any court of this body at any time for reasons
which seem to it sufficient." (25-11)

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This link isn't to a message per se.... just someone asking a question about whether or not we've heard anything about AAPC leaving...

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Sanford, NC
TE Ohio Valley Presbytery, PCA

True, but it repeats verbatim what was posted.

Interesting that this was posted in places where no discussion as far as I know was taking place on the topic. Green Bagginses was discussing the La plea, where they essentially threw in the towel and gave SJC the Wilkins case. See this thread.

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Doug Wilson weighs in.

Well, DW certainly seems sure of it.

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Confirmed at GB.

There were no dissenting votes according to the post by Doug Wilson.

aah...a nice clean break then. I wonder what will happen now with other presbyteries..

Are there actions pending against other presbyteries? Or are you wondering about the indictment that the LA Presbytery pled not guilty to?

Seems cowardly. What does this say to those who come under church discipline?

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I'm happy that he's gone and he can stop causing such a stir in the PCA, but it does disturb me that one would elect to subjugate themselves under the discipline of a church and then run at the hint of being held accountable for what they affirm.

Maybe I'm just a Negative Nancy though.

Rae stole my comment. I will tell you what it does... it gives an example of cut and run. If you come under examination by your session, get out as soon as you can instead of either A) clarifying and clearing your name, or B) being brought to repentance. And in those cases that none of us like, excommunication.

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for those who don't know how"
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I thought people (including Doug Wilson) were outraged that Steve Wilkins was not going to get a trial. And I thought that since the LA Presbytery had 'handed over' the case to the SJC that Steve Wilkins was going to be brought up on charges.

Am I wrong in my evaluation?

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My guess is that Wilkins simply did not want to come before the SJC. Given that the SJC thought Wilkins should have been charged, it makes sense for Wilkins to leave. This way he does leave as a minister in good standing, with no judicial proceeding against him. I think it was a good decision for AAPC to make, frankly.

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