Who will win the Euro Cup for 2008?

I predict Spain (Espana) will win it; they have done a great developing their team since before the last World Cup.

Now regarding church melodies, I was watching ESPN (Europe) and I saw an advertised commercial of the the Euro Cup. Turns out, while the commercial was playing they had a melody going on in the background that we used in church to sing hymns/psalms. I was like wow! They are playing one of our church tunes. I did not know that FIFA was Reformed?

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Gil Garcia
Rehoboth Reformed Church (RCUS)
La Habra, CA


"Indeed, one might say that as far as the doctrine of justification
is concerned, if you are not on the road to Wittenberg or Geneva, then the old proverb is indeed true: all roads lead to Rome." Carl Trueman

Difficult to say; I think Croatia could do well.

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)

Daniel,

Northern Ireland doesn't have a football (soccer) team?

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Gil Garcia
Rehoboth Reformed Church (RCUS)
La Habra, CA


"Indeed, one might say that as far as the doctrine of justification
is concerned, if you are not on the road to Wittenberg or Geneva, then the old proverb is indeed true: all roads lead to Rome." Carl Trueman

We do, and what is more, we beat Spain 3-2 in the qualifiers for the European Championships (our bad performances against lesser opposition let us down).

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)

Here is a picture of David Healy after scoring the winner against Spain.

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)

Well I don't know who will win but I will be cheering for the Netherlands.

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Rev. Daniel Kok
Pastor of Grace Reformed Church (URCNA)
Leduc, Alberta CANADA
Church Blog

"there is no creature, either in heaven or on earth, who loves us more than Jesus Christ"
Belgic Confession, Article 26

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Jeff Wyman
Seminarian
Little Farms Chapel OPC, Coopersville, MI
Puritan Reformed Theological Seminary, Grand Rapids, MI

"May grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord. His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to his own glory and excellence." 1 Peter 1:2-3 (ESV)

Not much of a shock there, your surname is a bit of a give away.

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)

Heart says Spain

Head says Croatia

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Jonathan Hunt

Preaching Elder
Cheltenham Evangelical Free Church (Confessionally Based)
Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom

Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.
-- Thomas Elsworth

Why does everyone want Spain to win? Just curious.

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)

Netherlands 3 vs. Italy 0 (So Far!)

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Gil Garcia
Rehoboth Reformed Church (RCUS)
La Habra, CA


"Indeed, one might say that as far as the doctrine of justification
is concerned, if you are not on the road to Wittenberg or Geneva, then the old proverb is indeed true: all roads lead to Rome." Carl Trueman

Spain will never win, they are the ultimate bottlers, its a lesson of history.

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Mike
London City Presbyterian Church
London
England

"Surely, we wish to be orthodox, but we must first learn what real orthodoxy is. Surely, we wish to be progressive, but we must first have a basis to progress from."

Why then do the Spaniards dominate the English League (both Players and Coaches)? This has nothing to do with the Spanish Armada.

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Gil Garcia
Rehoboth Reformed Church (RCUS)
La Habra, CA


"Indeed, one might say that as far as the doctrine of justification
is concerned, if you are not on the road to Wittenberg or Geneva, then the old proverb is indeed true: all roads lead to Rome." Carl Trueman

In their last game Spain beat England John F. Molinaro | Soccer Analysis - CBC Sports Online

And

Madrid - The Spanish media and football clubs are very worried about the country's young footballers being tempted away to England. In the past month there have been several television and newspaper features about young players having being lured away from Spain by English clubs.

And the Spaniards are really concerned that what started as a trickle a few years ago might soon turn into a flood.

The first young "futbolista" to be lured away to England was Cesc Fabregas, tempted out of Barcelona's youth team by Arsenal in 2003 when just 15.

Barca were furious to lose Fabregas - who has since blossomed into one of the most influential midfielders in European football - but there was nothing they could to prevent his departure, since Spanish law prevents clubs from offering professional contracts to youngsters before the age of 16.

Two years later the Arsenal scouts, under the orders of coach Arsene Wenger, returned to Barcelona to lure away another 15 year-old playmaker, Fran Merida.

This time Barca brought a civil lawsuit against Arsenal in a Barcelona court, which has ruled that the Londoners will have to pay the Catalan giants 3.2 million euros (4.67 million dollars) as compensation for Merida.

However, it doesn't look like the Merida ruling will stop Arsenal and other English clubs from "poaching" in Spain.

According to sports daily AS on Friday, Arsenal's latest Spanish target is 18 year-old striker Daniel Parejo, currently playing for Real Madrid's third division nursery side Castilla.

Perejo came to prominence by scoring the winning goal in last summer's European Under-19 championship in Austria.

Liverpool are following in Arsenal's footsteps. They now have no less than six young Spaniards in their youth teams - lured away from Barcelona, Sevilla, Athletic Bilbao, Real Madrid, Lleida and Sevilla - and have brought in Spanish coach Angel Vales to make them feel at home.

Forwards Daniel Pacheco and Gerard Bruna are Liverpool's most promising young Spaniards.

The Liverpool first-team, of course, is coached by Spaniard Rafa Benitez, who has bolstered his side with Spaniards since joining from Valencia in 2004.

Pablo Blanco, director of the youth programme at UEFA Cup holders Sevilla, told AS on Friday that "this is a very frustrating situation."

Alfredo Relano, editor of AS, suggests on Friday, in a concerned editorial piece, that the problem is that "we prefer to buy players rather than make them" and that so many Spanish youngsters head for England because they know they will be given more of a chance there.

AS has always been critical of Spanish clubs for not giving enough opportunities to their local youngsters.

Relano finishes his editorial hoping for a "change of mentality" in Spain, with the clubs starting to take as much care of their youngsters as they do in England.

Taken from: Spanish media worried about young players going to England - Feature : Sports

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Gil Garcia
Rehoboth Reformed Church (RCUS)
La Habra, CA


"Indeed, one might say that as far as the doctrine of justification
is concerned, if you are not on the road to Wittenberg or Geneva, then the old proverb is indeed true: all roads lead to Rome." Carl Trueman

The Spaniards are great footballers and coaches, they get good individual results but put them in a tournement and they will disappoint. Every tournement that I can remember has seen Spain being fancied and it always ends in tears.

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Mike
London City Presbyterian Church
London
England

"Surely, we wish to be orthodox, but we must first learn what real orthodoxy is. Surely, we wish to be progressive, but we must first have a basis to progress from."

Yet, the English stilled preffered them, why, I just don't understand.

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Gil Garcia
Rehoboth Reformed Church (RCUS)
La Habra, CA


"Indeed, one might say that as far as the doctrine of justification
is concerned, if you are not on the road to Wittenberg or Geneva, then the old proverb is indeed true: all roads lead to Rome." Carl Trueman

I'm nothing more than a casual fan of the sport. But I've always tended to cheer for the Netherlands too. They typically have an offensive minded style of play, and you gotta like the orange uniforms too.

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Chris
OPC member
Now attending Grace Community Baptist Church
Mandeville, LA

"Faith alone saves, but it is a faith that works." - S. Lewis Johnson

They tore the opposition apart in the first round (Italy and France included), but Russia have started to put up a fight in the quarter final which has just started.

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)

That pic says it all. The proverbial thrill of victory and the agony of defeat that was the catch phrase of ABC's old Wide World of Sports.

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Chris
OPC member
Now attending Grace Community Baptist Church
Mandeville, LA

"Faith alone saves, but it is a faith that works." - S. Lewis Johnson

You're wrong.

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)

I watching right now, Ned. vs. Russia. The game is 0-0, about twenty minutes to go in the first half and what a game it is turning out to be.

By the way I'm going for the Orange Force.

Live at ABC station directly from Basel, Switzerland.

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Gil Garcia
Rehoboth Reformed Church (RCUS)
La Habra, CA


"Indeed, one might say that as far as the doctrine of justification
is concerned, if you are not on the road to Wittenberg or Geneva, then the old proverb is indeed true: all roads lead to Rome." Carl Trueman

Glad that a good game is being seen by the masses in the US. Would love to know the ratings...

Go Russia!!!

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Benjamin P. Glaser
Pittsburgh, PA
Fairmount ARP Church, Sewickley, PA
Student of Theology Pittsburgh Theological Seminary & Reformed Presbyterian Theological Seminary

“If the Church could be aroused to a deeper sense of the glory that awaits her, she would enter with a warmer spirit into the struggles that are before her.”-- J.H. Thornwell