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played golf at the St. Andrews Old Course?
I thought that Chris Coldwell mentioned this somewhere when he addressed the issue of Calvin bowling on the Sabbath in his great book "Calvin in the Hands of the Philistines."
Do you have any info on that Chris?
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He might very well have played golf on the old course, but he never would have done so on the Lord's Day, even if he'd wanted to (which I doubt). The old course is closed on the Lord's Day, as it has always been, with the exception of four modern golf tournaments if hosted by the course (including The Open).
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From this website: http://www.thehistoryof.net/the-history-of-golf.html
I'm pretty sure it is verifiable.Though not all churchmen disliked golf, though he may not have played on a Sunday, it is reputed that the famous Scottish reformer John Knox was the first to yell `fore!’ when his errant ball was heading towards a group of other players.
Perhaps he played just to stick it King James. . .
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I haven't heard that one. Knox died in 1572 and the oldest record of golf being played on the old course is 1574. As that was probably not the first time, it is possible I guess, but I don't know.
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If so, he was the first in a long and illustrious line of Presbyterian golfers.
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Like R. C. Sproul and Alice Cooper... (though Alice is a Bible church member, not a Presbyterian, but he has golfed with RC)Originally Posted by P. F. Pugh
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I would beg to differ. King James banned his soldiers from playing golf in 1457 as it distracted his soldiers from archery. This shows golf would be fairly well established by Knox's time. It was in 1552 that residents of St. Andrews were given the right to use the links for golf and other pastimes.
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Whether Knox played golf or not at St Andrews would never be known (unless someone can find his scorecard!) but he could have played there.
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Like R. C. Sproul and Alice Cooper... (though Alice is a Bible church member, not a Presbyterian, but he has golfed with RC)
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Knox liked to golf?!? I thought golf was the devil's game?
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I think Satan turned to pool or something.
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No, it was poker.I think Satan turned to pool or something.
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Calvin bowled on the Sabbath?!?!
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Who's this Chris Coldwell guy?
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Sounds like a made-up faux-British name, doesn't it?
Bryce Blackpool... Drake Sheffield... kind of like that.
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Did he play golf with John Knox on Saint Andrews? That's so cool.Sounds like a made-up faux-British name, doesn't it?
Bryce Blackpool... Drake Sheffield... kind of like that.
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