Ok I know that there have already been threads over this movie but thier closed and I want some discussion. Did anyone see it on A&E the other night?

Am I mistaken or was it Ted Haggard that was preaching against Homosexuality in one part of the Movie??

One thing I am really curious about is are any of the things the guy that preached at the Camp said even in the bible? I cant recall any quotes right now, ill have to view the movie again, but he there are several times during it he says the Bible says, or God says, but he never gives even a book of reference.

I am all about teaching our children the Truth, God's word is truth. That is exactly why I want teach them Christianity because it is the Truth, towards the end of the film the lady is debating with the radio host over why she thinks children should be "indoctrinated". She responds, because every other religion does it, she also states statistics about knowledge children learn and such, but she doesnt proclaim that Christians Teach thier kids about God and Jesus because it is Truth, rather she accepts the radio hosts postmodern thought that it is just a choice to be made by the kids.

By the definition of Evangelical Christian given in this documentary no one on this site is an Evangelical Christian. It says "Evangelical Christians believe you are saved when you are "born again" by believing in Jesus."

I am also unsure if this movie was made to say evangelicals should "indoctrinate" their kids, or if they shouldnt.

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Bryan Riddle
1689 London Baptist Confession
Bethel Baptist Church Owasso, Oklahoma

Jesus camp was a pathetic movie. I believe it was child abuse in action. There was almost no end to how offensive this was. I am certain the unbeliever's rejoice when they can put up a caricature of christianity like these people offered in this movie.
The one radio host- was a broadcaster on the failed left wing radio show air-america. The sodomite Ted Haggard was involved in this abomination.
The way they emotionally abuse the children , and inflicted their pathetic ,fleshly view of Christ, and His church was horrific.
It would be like asking Fred Phelps and his crew to lead a seminar or soul winning techniques.
I hope nobody I know saw it. It will be a lot of work to undo the damage that that poor presentation made. If anyone does ask about it,you would have to establish how the word of God can be used, or abused.
In the case of this movie, it was abuse and sowing to the flesh.

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Anthony D'Arienzo
Sunday School Teacher
Hope Reformed Baptist Church:
Medford, N.Y.

I watched it a few weeks ago, and found it quite thought provoking. I have recommended it to a number of friends to watch, as a window into an area of the broader Christian community that we do not normally see. It is eye opening!

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Andrew Moody
Pastor - Christ Covenant OPC - Amarillo, TX
Director - Amarillo Theological Institute
Owner - Reformation Art
Amarillo Reformed Fellowship

i don't think this movie was an "abuse" per se. i think movies of this type are actually profitible and well worth the making...if nothing else than a way to expose us to "christian" sects that we may be unfamiliar with. our outrage at the things done int he name of Christ also gives us an opportunity to examine ourselves...

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Tim Inman
Husband of Angela
Youth Director, Ray of Hope Church (PFWB)
Reformed Baptist in a Weslyan Congregation
Smithfield, North Carolina

I think Iconoclast was saying that what the adults being filmed were doing was a form of child abuse, not the documentary itself.

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Davidius
Husband of Emilia
Member: First Reformed Presbyterian Church of Durham (RPCNA) - Durham, NC
Student: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, German Literature and Classics

This may explain the old adage about Baptists being Methodists with shoes, and Presbyterians being Baptists who can read. To round out the adage, Lutherans might qualify as Presbyterians who drink to excess, and Episcopalians as Lutherans who know when to say when. - D.G. Hart

oh..then i certainly agree. my religious upbringing, at times, wasn't much different than the children in the movie.

now, it wasn't as extreme, but i remember many similar elements that have left an impression that i still deal with.

Did anyone else feel a little vomit come up in the back of thier throats when the children started "speaking in toungues"?

The tounge witchcraft was horrifying. The Bush worship was a close tie.


Future Neo-Cons incubating.

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Chris Mangum
Presbyterian Reformed Church of Charlotte
student, GPTS
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Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. James 1:27

The Bush worship was way more vomitous than the tongues! I loved the movie and it reminded me why I am not a Republican... or an 'evangelical'! I have recommended it to a lot of Christian friends- I would NEVER recommend it to an unbeliever.

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Nathan Eshelman
Grand Rapids, MI
First Reformed Presbyterian Church

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Dan Pemberton
Vacaville, CA

Member, First Baptist Church San Luis Obispo
Formerly ABUSA (We left, so I guess that makes us American Baptists Unleashed!)

Should I rent this? I've been tempted to many times.

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I found it interesting enough to rent. It gave me several things to think about, it can be a good excercise of discernment to see how horribly off thier worldview is, and also it made me that much more thankful for the church in which I was raised.

Sure, just be careful as to the company you are with when you watch it. Even infant believer may really get the wrong idea if you know what I mean.