That's true. She did do that to the beast (which is also accurate to the book!).

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Rev. Lane Keister
Teaching Elder, PCA, North Dakota (working out of bounds in a CRC and an RCA church)
http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com
http://brahmsgreenglove.blogspot.com
http://accenttranslation.blogspot.com

the term FD as used by Shakelton means what?

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Jeff Rod
Eastwood Presbyterian Church PCA
member.
webpage: myspace.com/reformationforever

To live a simple, peaceable life before God
To owe as little as possible, to few as possible.

According to Peter Jones it is paganism run amok.

CWIPP: Christian Witness to a Pagan Planet

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Rev. Daniel Kok
Pastor of Grace Reformed Church (URCNA)
Leduc, Alberta CANADA
Church Blog

"there is no creature, either in heaven or on earth, who loves us more than Jesus Christ"
Belgic Confession, Article 26

I remember a lot of women cheering at the theater when Aowen said she was not a man, but a woman.

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Scott Roberts
Ruling Elder, Lakeside Presbyterian Church (PCA)
Southlake, Texas

Well said; and something often left in the background of our understanding. Perhaps that's understandable as Adam was standing in the background when he should have been in the foreground.


Modern day accounting:
3 The thug in the city park was the shrewdest of all the thugs in the city. One day he asked Ishah, “Did the surgeon general really say you must not take any drugs?”
2*“Of course we may take drugs,” the woman replied. 3*“It’s only the drugs from thugs in the city park that we are not allowed to take. The surgeon general said, ‘You must not take them or even touch them; if you do, you will die.’ ”
4*“You won’t die!” the thug replied to Ishah. 5*“The surgeon general knows that your understanding will expand when you take these drugs, and you will be like research scientists, knowing both approved and street drugs.”
6*Ishah was convinced. She saw that the drugs were attractive and easy to take, and she wanted the wisdom they would give her. So she took them and got wasted. Then she gave some to Ha-adam, who was with her, and he got wasted too. 7*At that moment their eyes were opened, and they suddenly felt paranoid and got the munchies. So they went to MacDonalds and satiated their hunger. From that day on Ha-adam made sure Ishah had plenty of drugs and plenty of munchies; otherwise she would beat him soundly about the head and shoulders.

So much for the protector...

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For the Glory of our King,
Joe Johnson
Married up in 1988 and blessed with two wonderful sons
TMS graduate
Preacherboy at Cornerstone Community Church, Escanaba, MI
http://www.SoundLife.org

Probably Fire Department.

oh thx

So I guess what you are saying is that men have always been passive and the ones that know what is good for them (and know how to keep peace) just let women have their way?

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Erick Bohndorf
http://qayaqtraveler.blogspot.com/
Jeremiah 23:16,17, "Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord. 17They say continually to those who despise the word of the Lord, ‘It shall be well with you’; and to everyone who stubbornly follows his own heart, they say, ‘No disaster shall come upon you."

It is a deeply secret and archaic term for "Fire Department"...

Huh? Not sure how you misread Bob there.

What he's saying is that the natural man is passive. Our culture now says that passivity is the way to go - so the culture tempts men to act according to their natural tendency.

However, the Bible calls men NOT to a passive but a loving and active role in the home - we must struggle against our nature in order to take that active role. That's all Bob was saying (hope he doesn't mind me speaking for him).

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Todd K. Pedlar
member, First Congregational Church, (CCCC) Cresco, IA
http://semperubi.rtrc.net

"Many men, after a long conversion, see more of the workings of sin in their hearts than ever they did before or at their first conversion. Now, such men have not an increase of sin, but an increase of illumination and light" (Christopher Love)

Nice one!



Feminism, plain and simple. In the realm of entertainment, it is feminism combined with juvenile fantasy (often known as "arrested development").



Unfortunately, the Army has had integrated training for some years now, and it is true that all it does is to lower the standard of training. There are two separate physical standards between men and women, and since the military is now big on making everyone feel good about themselves and finishing as a group, it does indeed drag down the training of the men.

I remember that there were women in my parachutist training course, and that although the requirement had been that everyone had to be able to accomplish a minimum of ten pull ups before we began jumping, the women merely had to complete a flexed arm hang for thirty seconds or something. This was really an issue with me, since the whole point of having to complete the pull ups was to demonstrate to the instructors that you had sufficient upper body strength to perform a "slip" using your risers to counteract the force of a driving wind, or to maneuver around an obstacle or another jumper. If you couldn't do the pull ups, you probably couldn't perform a sufficient slip (which does require a bit of upper body strength on the toggle-less mass-tac parachute). However, since jumps are almost always into a combat situation, and since it was figured that airborne school was just being used for promotional points with these women, the issue was probably seen as untouchable by the cadre.

I would have like to have seen any of them sprint on down to the barracks with us for the Ranger Indoctrination Program that began the day we graduated from jump school.... (flexed-arm hangs won't save you there)

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Adam J. Myer
Pastor
Trinity Reformed Presbyterian Chapel
Pistol River, Oregon

Speak away Todd, I like it, thanks.

Not to name drop, but we've alluded to the LOTR a few times. I just want to say that, Lord willing, my kids and I are going to get to meet the horse that played Gandalf's Shadowfax next Saturday at the Midwest Horse Fair. Yup, don't hate me because you're jealous. You know you wish you were me.

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Bob Vigneault (Bawb Vēēn-yo)
I'm learning more about less and less; soon I won't know anything at all!

The Heartbeat of Heaven (blog) MySpace (Music), MySpace (Personal)
Member of Christ Presbyterian Church, Janesville, WI OPC www.christ-opc.org
Jude 24,25

Click to get: Board Rules -- Signature Requirements -- Suggestions?

Try to get him to autograph your book.

In short, because "men" are becoming more like women.

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)
http://reformedcovenanter.wordpress.com/
The Regulative Principle of Worship: Explained and Applied (Xulon Press)
A Conquered Kingdom: Biblical Civil Government (Reformed Worldview Books)

I have a confession. My wife and I thought Uma Thurman was SUPER COOL in "Kill Bill" Uncle Etexas hunkers down and awaits the thrown rocks.

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~etexas~

*prepares to throw rocks at those who mess with Texas :P

The strength disproportionality between men and women is astounding.

Granted, a woman who has trained for 10 years to be a kick-boxer would wipe the floor with me. However, were she matched against a man who had done the same training, it would be no contest. This is not because women are "inferior", but merely different.

I was in NROTC for a year because I was considering military service. The gap between the men and the women is amazing. After 3 months I could run 5 miles with no problem, while the women in the program were still struggling to run without stopping for 2. All of them men were doing vastly more push-ups, sit-ups, pull-ups, and running. We always had more stamina and, not only that, but more "will" to do the task. When we found something to be hard, we kept trying until it got easy. Many of the girls just threw their arms in the air and gave up.

The physical tests were tailored for men and women too. Men's minimum fitness qualifications were nowhere near the best of what some of the women could do. It's just not possible. Women have to work harder to perform the same physical tasks as men, and that's just the way it is. They're not inferior because of it, merely different.

Anyone asserting otherwise should have a fitness test between and average mand and an average woman.

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Andrew DeShazo, Deacon
Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church, Memphis, TN
"Send Zenas the lawyer and Apollos on their journey with haste, that they may lack nothing." -Titus 3:13
http://foolish-wisdom.blogspot.com/

AWESOME. Put a horn on his head and take a picture.

Bob, not sure how hurting you are for cash, but I'm sure that if you collected a few of ol' Shadowfax's dropped dumplings, there is an Ebay auction with your name on it and $$$ awaiting.

But that's only if you're into picking through horse turds, Mr. Ferguson.

I think so - 'gender norming' run amok...

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Kevin
Far East
Deacon, Int'l Church

I have to admit I love the Kill Bill movies. I think the difference is she always fights other women - the only male she really physically beats is Bill, but even then she uses "five point palm exploding heart technique" rather than out-muscling him.

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Mason
Member, Redeemer Presbyterian Church (PCA)
New York, NY

"Come now, and let us reason together," says the Lord, "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be as wool." - Isaiah 1:18