Just got back from the midnight showing. Wow. I give it two thumbs up. Even the women folk liked it.

Ledger was amazing in his part as The Joker.

A very interesting view of morality -- I don't think it will be a spoiler to anyone to hear that it was totally postmodern in that respect.

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James Helbert, Wytheville, VA
Providence Reformed Presbyterian Church, RPCUS
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Can you give a guide as to language/nudity/sex scenes?

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Elder holding forth the word of life at:
Cheltenham Evangelical Free Church (Confessionally Based)
Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom

Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.
-- Thomas Elsworth

Okay, I don't recall there being any sexual references or language. The objectionable part some people may have is to the violence. For a movie rated PG-13, it was quite excessive. The Joker does some mighty sadistic things in an effort to...well, do whatever it is he is trying to do. Two Face also gets pretty grotesque; his facial injuries gave me chills down my back EVERY time the camera showed him. All in all, it's enough to get under your skin (as was Christopher Nolan's intention) and get into young children's nightmares. I would strongly encourage a preview before taking the kids.

By the way, this is just my on the content. My opinion of the movie is a different topic altogether.

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Dan Pemberton
Vacaville, CA

Member, First Baptist Church San Luis Obispo
Formerly ABUSA (We left, so I guess that makes us American Baptists Unleashed!)

Because I took my boy to see Iron Man and I was very dismayed that there was a casual sex bedroom scene in it. I had seen nothing to warn me in advance. I suppose because they don't show any 'rude' body parts they don't have to. But it was more than we wanted to see. I think this is one we will have to wait for the DVD (if at all) and check it first.

Before seeing a movie, I always check out Plugged In Online for their review. It's part of Focus on the Family (I know, I know). Regardless of what one might think about Christians reviewing every movie that comes out (even the nasty ones!), it really is helpful in determining if I should attend a certain movie.

Here's the review for The Dark Knight: The Dark Knight

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Kim G
Non-denom church (holds to the WCF)
Zion Community Church, Greenville, SC

Teach me Your way, O LORD;
I will walk in Your truth;
Unite my heart to fear Your name.
Psalm 86:11

Anyone going to see it this evening or tomorrow?

I'm taking my 18 year old son tomorrow for his birthday...

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LtCol Jay Storms
New Life in Christ Church (PCA)
Spotsylvania, VA

The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
Winston Churchill

I'm leaving in 90 minutes to go see it, no bigger DC/Marvel fan than me!

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If the movie is at 8:45 tonight and it takes 20 minutes to get there. When should I leave to get good seats???

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Husband of Dena
Father of Oliver
Master of Bruce
Pastor of Tchula Presbyterian Church

What can I say, I like blogs!

be there at 6:30 p.m.

Would it be too intense for anyone under 10 to see it? Would like to see it but from what I have heard it might be too much for my son who just turns 10 next month. He really wanted me to take him to see it tonight.
I think it's ridiculous that they are marketing this movie to kids that are way to young to see it with happy meal toys, cereals, and action figures.

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Tom Mitchell
Opp, AL
Member of First Presbyterian Church PCA Florala, AL

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Harvey Dent is why many are saying it's not for kids.

There is quite a bit of violence and Two-Face is pretty disgusting looking. You decide. Personally, I probably wouldn't take a child that young.

**This may contain spoilers**

I don't know how this is sounding, as I don't have kids; but, I really wouldn't recommend a ten year old see it. There are things the Joker does that really got under my skin. This is not a movie with scary parts, like the boogy man will jump out from around the corner or anything. The scary parts were prolonged images of very grotesque wounds, new & innovative ways of ending someone else's life, and the perpetual anticipation of death. There were multiple times in the movie that I was given the sinking feeling in my stomach of "Oh my goodness. These people may die." The only other time were I felt such a connection to the elements of death in a film was with Saving Private Ryan (not a comparison of violence, just the confrontation of death I found to be notable between the two). One of the ways Christopher Nolan brings such intensity to the story is by breaking the characters of their principles, tossing them into sheer choas, and keeping them alive only long enough to become the very person they always hated. The line of morals are blurred as each character questions why he or she is maintaining their values in the capacity they are. This is not only done with the main characters but with countless lay people in the story. The film is about the deconstruction and degradation of principles inside an individual. This is something Nolan does an excellent job of making truly psychologically terrifying.

Not wanting to have anyone who has seen this movie to give anything away but from what I have seen of pictures online of this version of the Joker, it looks like his white face and red lips are just painted on instead of being a permanent scar like in the first Batman movie with Jack Nicholson's Joker. Was wondering about that.
Any ideas? Almost tempted to go see it my self with out my son.

In the film the Joker is wearing the makeup to cover scars. For about 1/2 a second, the viewer gets to see his face.

Language was not that bad (that I can remember). No nudity. No sex scenes.

Heath Ledger's act was not bad. I was disappointed in the movie as a whole, though. It really didn't deliver, especially considering the hype that surrounded it. The movie lasted too long as well.

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Christ Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church, RPCGA
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Dear Brethren,

Let's discuss a topic which is central at our covenant home, and that is "To View or not To View: How to view movies from a biblical perspective." How about some rules for the discussion?

Rule #1 Scripture references plse
Rule #2 Plenty of qoutes from our faithfull spiritual fathers the Puritans
Rule #3 Keep it simple yet profound

Who would like to begin?

Here is my propostion.

Christians should not view movies that ...let the discussion begin.

Why or why not? Just a reminder: our children will want to know why we believe what we believe and why we believe what we believe? In addition, as they grow up they are developing their view of the world. We have been given the responsibility to train them up in the way (G-d's way, G-d's law, G-d's word, G-d's view of reality) they should go... As they view films their minds, will and emotions are being constructed by their eye and ear gate.

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Dr. Riquelme,

I am going to move your post, so that it will be a thread of its own, since it has nothing to do with the purpose of this thread. Also, Sir, if you could, please click the section labeled "Signature Requirements" in my signature line and amend your signature accordingly. Thanks so much, Sir.

Josh

My wife and I almost went to the midnight showing. We decided not to as 1) tickets are now 8.50 a pop, and 2) I wasn't really thrilled about watching a movie with a leading role given to Heath "Brokeback" Ledger.

I think that was probably a good save. The evaluation at plugged-in helped me to be persuaded that it probably was a little more than I cared to digest, and what's more there were even some reviews from some major secular news sources that asked why in the world it was given only a PG-13 rating, and stating that "NO, you should not take your grade school children if you don't want to have to take care of nightmares for the next couple of weeks".

Batman and that series' villains never really hit it off with me in the same way as say, Marvel's X-Men/X-Factor or Daredevil did.

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Adam J. Myer
Slated for the Jan. 10th Chaplains Basic Officer Leadership Course
Estacada Christian Church
Sandy, Oregon

Soli Deo Gloria

My wife and I saw the midnight showing and enjoyed it.

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Matthew Morales (Husband to Rachel)
Redeemer Presbyterian Church (Santa Rosa, CA)

"...But this is the one to whom I will look: he who is humble and contrite in spirit and trembles at my word." Isaiah 66:2b (ESV)

"Judge not the Lord by feeble sense, But trust Him for his grace;
Behind a frowning providence He hides a smiling face"-William Cowper

If you're a Batman fan, a Batman fan of the CURRENT modern day comics, you will absolutely LOVE this movie. It's very faithful to the comic source.

Saw it, better than the first. Bye

So that's a "thumbs up" from you then?

"Characters abuse Jesus' name three times."

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Just got back from seeing it in Times Square. I really liked it, though it is very dark and intense throughout. I wouldn't recommend taking kids under 14-15, mainly because of how intense and violent it is. Overall definitely worth seeing, in my opinion. The acting is great (and I'm not a Heath Ledger fan usually), the special effects are excellent, the story is intelligent, the characters are intriguing. While certainly not intended, I couldn't help but notice some Messianic overtones, especially at the end - anyone else get that vibe?

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Mason
Member, Redeemer Presbyterian Church (PCA)
New York, NY

"Come now, and let us reason together," says the Lord, "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be as wool." - Isaiah 1:18

Just got back from watching it ... good film , I took my wife and son to watch it , but my son is 18 in a couple of days .. NOT suitable for under 14s I think.

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Anthony Anderson
I am a member of Carey Baptist Church
UK

I am what I am by The Grace of God.

It's currently considered the best movie of all time on IMDB.com This is based on votes giving by normal joe blows like you and me.

IMDb Top 250

I saw it. I enjoyed it. A good movie to discuss after as it deals with several interesting moral questions.

Batman is my favourite comic character so I am probably biased.

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Mark Maney
Edmonton Chinese Baptist Church
Master of Theological Studies
Master of Arts (Cross Cultural)
Trinity Western University, ACTS Seminaries
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Fer cryin' out loud! Holy IQs-to-match-the-shoe-size, Batman!

Somebody, beam me somewhere, quick!

Margaret

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Margaret
Free Church of Scotland [Continuing]
Michigan

I did not care for the movie. There were several reasons, but especially because the obvious conclusion of the movie was that the joker was right--even in the end, Batman gives up telling the truth, and maintaining a good name. Morally, the movie was bankrupt with the one exception of the passengers on the two ships, for which I clapped out loud.

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Rev. Todd Ruddell
Pastor, Christ Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church (RPCGA)
Wylie, TX
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Our best marks can contribute nothing to our justification, ...that is proper to faith. Faith cannot lodge in the soul alone, and without other graces; yet faith alone justifies before God.--G. Gillespie