Just got back from the midnight showing. Wow. I give it two thumbs up. Even the women folk liked it.

Ledger was amazing in his part as The Joker.

A very interesting view of morality -- I don't think it will be a spoiler to anyone to hear that it was totally postmodern in that respect.

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~James Helbert~, Wytheville, VA
Providence Reformed Presbyterian Church, RPCUS
TheBibleAlone.com / The Edinburgh Inn
"Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?” - Zechariah 3:2

Can you give a guide as to language/nudity/sex scenes?

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Jonathan Hunt

Preaching Elder
Cheltenham Evangelical Free Church (Confessionally Based)
Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom

Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.
-- Thomas Elsworth

Okay, I don't recall there being any sexual references or language. The objectionable part some people may have is to the violence. For a movie rated PG-13, it was quite excessive. The Joker does some mighty sadistic things in an effort to...well, do whatever it is he is trying to do. Two Face also gets pretty grotesque; his facial injuries gave me chills down my back EVERY time the camera showed him. All in all, it's enough to get under your skin (as was Christopher Nolan's intention) and get into young children's nightmares. I would strongly encourage a preview before taking the kids.

By the way, this is just my on the content. My opinion of the movie is a different topic altogether.

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Dan Pemberton
Vacaville, CA

Member, First Baptist Church San Luis Obispo
Formerly ABUSA (We left, so I guess that makes us American Baptists Unleashed!)

Because I took my boy to see Iron Man and I was very dismayed that there was a casual sex bedroom scene in it. I had seen nothing to warn me in advance. I suppose because they don't show any 'rude' body parts they don't have to. But it was more than we wanted to see. I think this is one we will have to wait for the DVD (if at all) and check it first.

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Jonathan Hunt

Preaching Elder
Cheltenham Evangelical Free Church (Confessionally Based)
Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom

Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.
-- Thomas Elsworth

Before seeing a movie, I always check out Plugged In Online for their review. It's part of Focus on the Family (I know, I know). Regardless of what one might think about Christians reviewing every movie that comes out (even the nasty ones!), it really is helpful in determining if I should attend a certain movie.

Here's the review for The Dark Knight: The Dark Knight

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Kim G
Non-denom church (holds to the WCF)
Zion Community Church, Greenville, SC

Teach me Your way, O LORD;
I will walk in Your truth;
Unite my heart to fear Your name.
Psalm 86:11

Anyone going to see it this evening or tomorrow?

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~James Helbert~, Wytheville, VA
Providence Reformed Presbyterian Church, RPCUS
TheBibleAlone.com / The Edinburgh Inn
"Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?” - Zechariah 3:2

I'm taking my 18 year old son tomorrow for his birthday...

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LtCol Jay Storms
New Life in Christ Church (PCA)
Spotsylvania, VA

The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
Winston Churchill

I'm leaving in 90 minutes to go see it, no bigger DC/Marvel fan than me!

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Adam Leavelle
Westminster OPC
Roaring Spring Pa.

http://www.myspace.com/aleavelle
"Speak wisdom to a fool and he'll think you have no sense at all"

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If the movie is at 8:45 tonight and it takes 20 minutes to get there. When should I leave to get good seats???

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Rev. Andrew J. Barnes
Husband of Dena
Pastor of Tchula Presbyterian Church

be there at 6:30 p.m.

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Adam Leavelle
Westminster OPC
Roaring Spring Pa.

http://www.myspace.com/aleavelle
"Speak wisdom to a fool and he'll think you have no sense at all"

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Would it be too intense for anyone under 10 to see it? Would like to see it but from what I have heard it might be too much for my son who just turns 10 next month. He really wanted me to take him to see it tonight.
I think it's ridiculous that they are marketing this movie to kids that are way to young to see it with happy meal toys, cereals, and action figures.

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Tom Mitchell
Opp, AL
Member of First Presbyterian Church PCA Florala, AL

Open profaneness is the broad dirty way which leads to hell
--but trusting in religious duties is a sure way, though a cleaner way to hell. ~ Thomas Brooks
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Harvey Dent is why many are saying it's not for kids.

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Adam Leavelle
Westminster OPC
Roaring Spring Pa.

http://www.myspace.com/aleavelle
"Speak wisdom to a fool and he'll think you have no sense at all"

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There is quite a bit of violence and Two-Face is pretty disgusting looking. You decide. Personally, I probably wouldn't take a child that young.

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~James Helbert~, Wytheville, VA
Providence Reformed Presbyterian Church, RPCUS
TheBibleAlone.com / The Edinburgh Inn
"Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?” - Zechariah 3:2

**This may contain spoilers**

I don't know how this is sounding, as I don't have kids; but, I really wouldn't recommend a ten year old see it. There are things the Joker does that really got under my skin. This is not a movie with scary parts, like the boogy man will jump out from around the corner or anything. The scary parts were prolonged images of very grotesque wounds, new & innovative ways of ending someone else's life, and the perpetual anticipation of death. There were multiple times in the movie that I was given the sinking feeling in my stomach of "Oh my goodness. These people may die." The only other time were I felt such a connection to the elements of death in a film was with Saving Private Ryan (not a comparison of violence, just the confrontation of death I found to be notable between the two). One of the ways Christopher Nolan brings such intensity to the story is by breaking the characters of their principles, tossing them into sheer choas, and keeping them alive only long enough to become the very person they always hated. The line of morals are blurred as each character questions why he or she is maintaining their values in the capacity they are. This is not only done with the main characters but with countless lay people in the story. The film is about the deconstruction and degradation of principles inside an individual. This is something Nolan does an excellent job of making truly psychologically terrifying.

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Dan Pemberton
Vacaville, CA

Member, First Baptist Church San Luis Obispo
Formerly ABUSA (We left, so I guess that makes us American Baptists Unleashed!)

Not wanting to have anyone who has seen this movie to give anything away but from what I have seen of pictures online of this version of the Joker, it looks like his white face and red lips are just painted on instead of being a permanent scar like in the first Batman movie with Jack Nicholson's Joker. Was wondering about that.
Any ideas? Almost tempted to go see it my self with out my son.

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Tom Mitchell
Opp, AL
Member of First Presbyterian Church PCA Florala, AL

Open profaneness is the broad dirty way which leads to hell
--but trusting in religious duties is a sure way, though a cleaner way to hell. ~ Thomas Brooks
www.myspace.com/tom_mitchell1960
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=607055102

In the film the Joker is wearing the makeup to cover scars. For about 1/2 a second, the viewer gets to see his face.

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Dan Pemberton
Vacaville, CA

Member, First Baptist Church San Luis Obispo
Formerly ABUSA (We left, so I guess that makes us American Baptists Unleashed!)

Language was not that bad (that I can remember). No nudity. No sex scenes.

Heath Ledger's act was not bad. I was disappointed in the movie as a whole, though. It really didn't deliver, especially considering the hype that surrounded it. The movie lasted too long as well.

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Josh Hicks, Chloë's Daddy
Member of TRBC, Attending CCRPC. My Blog
The Puritan Pub (Team Blog)
Board Rules -- Signature Requirements -- Suggestions?

Dear Brethren,

Let's discuss a topic which is central at our covenant home, and that is "To View or not To View: How to view movies from a biblical perspective." How about some rules for the discussion?

Rule #1 Scripture references plse
Rule #2 Plenty of qoutes from our faithfull spiritual fathers the Puritans
Rule #3 Keep it simple yet profound

Who would like to begin?

Here is my propostion.

Christians should not view movies that ...let the discussion begin.

Why or why not? Just a reminder: our children will want to know why we believe what we believe and why we believe what we believe? In addition, as they grow up they are developing their view of the world. We have been given the responsibility to train them up in the way (G-d's way, G-d's law, G-d's word, G-d's view of reality) they should go... As they view films their minds, will and emotions are being constructed by their eye and ear gate.

Trinity Chapel NYC
Church Planter
Peter

Dr. Riquelme,

I am going to move your post, so that it will be a thread of its own, since it has nothing to do with the purpose of this thread. Also, Sir, if you could, please click the section labeled "Signature Requirements" in my signature line and amend your signature accordingly. Thanks so much, Sir.

Josh

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Josh Hicks, Chloë's Daddy
Member of TRBC, Attending CCRPC. My Blog
The Puritan Pub (Team Blog)
Board Rules -- Signature Requirements -- Suggestions?

My wife and I almost went to the midnight showing. We decided not to as 1) tickets are now 8.50 a pop, and 2) I wasn't really thrilled about watching a movie with a leading role given to Heath "Brokeback" Ledger.

I think that was probably a good save. The evaluation at plugged-in helped me to be persuaded that it probably was a little more than I cared to digest, and what's more there were even some reviews from some major secular news sources that asked why in the world it was given only a PG-13 rating, and stating that "NO, you should not take your grade school children if you don't want to have to take care of nightmares for the next couple of weeks".

Batman and that series' villains never really hit it off with me in the same way as say, Marvel's X-Men/X-Factor or Daredevil did.

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Adam J. Myer
Now waiting on the November accessions board, because I'm still waiting on the West Coast recruiting staff!
Evergreen PCA
Salem, Oregon

My wife and I saw the midnight showing and enjoyed it.

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Matthew Morales (Husband to Rachel)
Redeemer Presbyterian Church (Santa Rosa, CA)

"...But this is the one to whom I will look: he who is humble and contrite in spirit and trembles at my word." Isaiah 66:2b (ESV)

"Judge not the Lord by feeble sense, But trust Him for his grace;
Behind a frowning providence He hides a smiling face"-William Cowper