PB family i wanted to bring to your attention a dear sister in Christ in the UK. Read her post on her blog yourself and dont miss the comments that follow. Last i heard she is being threatened with having her 4 yr old daughter taken from her. If you can, send her an email with a word of encouragement.

The Virtuous Woman

in Christ,
flavio

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Flavio
Particular Baptist, 1644er
Visiting churches
Bond servant of my Lord Jesus
Husband to Hanna, father to Nathan, Chloe, Caleb, & Lily

This is suppression of religious freedom by people too ignorant to pick their knuckles off the ground. The comments I read on that blog represent some of the most ignorant objections and accusations, to the point I question their sincerity and suspect the writers of being obtuse. God help me become an attorney.

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Andrew DeShazo
Husband of Kathryn
Father of Phillip-Giles B. DeShazo
Deacon
Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church, Memphis, TN
"From out of the depth of unbroken Infinfity arose the Question, "Who am I?" And to that Question there is the answer, "I am God!" -Meher Baba, died 1969.

"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Christ, died 33 AD, ressurected three days later.

Do you have her email?

Sorry about that Andrew here it is fadzaigasho@yahoo.co.uk

Any link to the legal threats levied against her? How official is it?

Apparently some people meaning this sister harm linked her blog to places like Richard Dawkins forum and other militant anti God sites. So right now it looks like its regular crazy people pushing and petitioning the UK authorities to do this. I emailed Jean as well and waitting to find out more.

flavio

Oh my word... That just makes me sick, reading those comments. What hateful, godless people! "There is no such thing as evil, but you are evil for telling your child there is evil! You evil woman, abusing your child like that! How dare you destroy her self-esteem!" They are such fools! Makes me want to start the crusades all over again.

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Ian Kemmerer
Trinity Bible Fellowship, Blandon, PA
Fleetwood, PA

"Be still, my soul: when dearest friends depart, And all is darkened in the vale of tears, Then shalt thou better know His love, His heart, Who comes to soothe thy sorrow and thy fears. Be still, my soul: thy Jesus can repay From His own fullness all He takes away."

"Long my imprisoned spirit lay,
Fast bound in sin and nature’s night;
Thine eye diffused a quickening ray—
I woke, the dungeon flamed with light;
My chains fell off, my heart was free,
I rose, went forth, and followed Thee."

The NSPCC is responsible for the action against her. Look up some of their policies; for instance, against corporal punishment.

They advocate that instead of hitting your child for biting a playmate or running into traffic, you should hug them and love them, or make a joint-decision with them. If they persist in being bad, then maybe allowing the natural consequences of the action to happen will deter them in the future.

You know, natural consequences like getting punched in the face instead of spanked on the bottom, or getting run over and killed by a car. Yes, that will stop them from running into traffic in the future.

The NSPCC does a lot of good work with abused children. They also waste a lot of money campaigning against smacking, which is why i never support them.

They have visited the sister in question and threatened to take her children away for mental abuse.

All she is guilty of is writing a little unclearly and using strong theological language. No-where does she suggest that she has told her child she is 'depraved' or 'worthless'.

Most telling is the folks who have piled on her combox from dawkins' site asking her if her HUSBAND beats her (the mother, not the child). Unreal.

If this goes any further, I am sure that the Christian Institute will appoint a lawyer for her as they do in these cases.

JH

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Jonathan Hunt

Elder holding forth the word of life at:
Cheltenham Evangelical Free Church (Confessionally Based)
Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom

Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.
-- Thomas Elsworth

I think Richard Dawkins is really the Grinch.

Is there a link to the Dawkins forum threads that are talking about her?

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Tim Vaughan
Member, Redeemer Presbyterian, OPC,
Santa Maria
California

She's a mental health nurse! I would not be surprised if this impacted her job...

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Kevin, husband of a truly angelic woman, and father to ten.
Zion United Reformed Church of Sheffield
Ontario, Canada

There is but you have to sign up http://richarddawkins.net/forum/view...a531cc6c6835c1

Thanks, I'd found the forum, but browsing around can't find the thread.

its this link RichardDawkins.net Forum • Login

The poster ends the alert with

You have to be a member to see them. There was a link in the comments. RichardDawkins.net Forum • Login

Will be keeping her and her children in prayer.

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JC - PCA - PA...homesick for SC
A we n' de Ya, ho; I mak sikker; Deus juvat

Indicabo tibi o homo quid sit bonum, et quid Dominus requirat a te: Utique facere iudicium, et diligere, misericordiam, et sollicitum ambulare cum Deo tuo. Michaeas 6:8

"Who says you can't go back, been all around the world and as a matter of fact. There's only one place left I want to go, who says you can't go home" Bon Jovi

I will pray to that.

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Boliver
Future Chaplain
EPC
Hankamer, TX

On the other hand, is she not casting pearls before swine? There are some precious things that ought not be noised abroad.

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Steve Rafalsky
Elder, International Evangelical Church (Reformed)
Limassol, Cyprus

"I am set for the defense of the gospel" (Philippians 1:17)

"Strengthened with all might, according to His glorious
power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness..." (Colossians 1:11)

Blog: A Great and Terrible Love

Even if one does conclude that she was a bit more noisy than she should be, I doubt anyone here would say she deserves her kids taken away from her.

I will be praying for her. God give her strength.

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Traci
Lynnwood OPC
"I have taken all my good deeds, and all my bad deeds, and cast them through each other in a heap before the Lord, and fled from both, and betaken myself to the Lord Jesus Christ, and in him I have sweet peace."--David Dickson

Is this a member's only forum? Should we keep her email address privat, or is it available from her site?

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soli Deo gloria!
~Nicholas~ Ordained Pastor
Member, Fulton PCA; GPTS Student
Christians are like snow covered dung; it is the purity of the covering which the Father sees. -Luther-
There is nothing more ugly than a Christian orthodoxy without understanding or without compassion.
-Francis Schaeffer-

her email is on her public profile

Ok. I didn't know. Just wanted to protect her further if it wasn't.

Wow, what vitriol.

Do you think we should invite her and her family to one of our conservative Christian cities of refuge in here in the south?

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Jonathan
College Student
Grace Family Fellowship {SBC}
Kentucky

... yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

1 Corinthians 8:6