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07-24-2009, 11:06 AM
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Is the Lord's Prayer to be (or can it be) prayed during Public Worship? Does this fall in line with the RPW?
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The Westminster Directory of Public Worship States: And because the prayer which Christ taught his disciples is not only a pattern of prayer, but itself a most comprehensive prayer, we recommend it also to be used in the prayers of the church.
My own understanding (and preference) would be that it should be used on occasion and not every week as it would become too repetitive. I voted "other" for that reason.
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Yes, we may. It certainly falls in line with the RPW.
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Originally Posted by Romans922 Is the Lord's Prayer to be (or can it be) prayed during Public Worship? Does this fall in line with the RPW? | Matthew 6 is the exegetical basis for the Lord's prayer being a pattern for prayer, whereas Luke 11:2 gives us the exegetical basis for praying it as a prayer... So He said to them, "When you pray, say: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven...
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I agree with Josh. We certainly can pray the Lord's Prayer in worship. But we shouldn't make that mandatory. What I do in Sunday morning worship is conclude the pastoral prayer with a unison Lord's Prayer.
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Originally Posted by greenbaggins I agree with Josh. We certainly can pray the Lord's Prayer in worship. But we shouldn't make that mandatory. What I do in Sunday morning worship is conclude the pastoral prayer with a unison Lord's Prayer. | This is what we do as well at CCRPC.
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Originally Posted by greenbaggins I agree with Josh. We certainly can pray the Lord's Prayer in worship. But we shouldn't make that mandatory. What I do in Sunday morning worship is conclude the pastoral prayer with a unison Lord's Prayer. | What do you mean "shouldn't make it mandatory"? If it's in the liturgy shouldn't each worshiper participate? Why put it in the liturgy if not?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.
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Originally Posted by Reepicheep Quote:
Originally Posted by greenbaggins I agree with Josh. We certainly can pray the Lord's Prayer in worship. But we shouldn't make that mandatory. What I do in Sunday morning worship is conclude the pastoral prayer with a unison Lord's Prayer. | What do you mean "shouldn't make it mandatory"? If it's in the liturgy shouldn't each worshiper participate? Why put it in the liturgy if not?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. | I believe that he means that it shouldn't be mandatory that it be in the liturgy.
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We do in our church worship. I'm a little confused tho. If something is apart of the RPW, why isn't it mandatory? If it isn't apart of the RPW, then it shouldn't be done. It was my understanding that we are not to put anything in worship that isn't specifically commanded to be there nor are we to leave out anything specifically commanded to be put in there....I thought that was the RPW.
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God has commanded that we pray in worship. He has not commanded that we use the Lord's Prayer every Sunday. Everyone should participate in prayer, even if only the pastor is praying out loud. Josh understood me correctly. All I am saying is that Jesus said that we should pray like this (the Lord's Prayer). He didn't say that we are limited only to these particular words in prayer.
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Ok, I think my mind operates too constrictively on subjects like this.
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Originally Posted by greenbaggins I agree with Josh. We certainly can pray the Lord's Prayer in worship. But we shouldn't make that mandatory. What I do in Sunday morning worship is conclude the pastoral prayer with a unison Lord's Prayer. | This is also what I do as well.
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The Westminster Larger Catechism says that it may be prayed as a prayer as long as understanding, faith, and other graces are necessary when praying it.
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I'm interested in the reasons those who've said "No" answered in that way.
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The Lord's Prayer is a direct quote from the Bible. WHY wouldn't you pray it every Sunday??
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Originally Posted by Joshua Quote:
Originally Posted by greenbaggins I agree with Josh. We certainly can pray the Lord's Prayer in worship. But we shouldn't make that mandatory. What I do in Sunday morning worship is conclude the pastoral prayer with a unison Lord's Prayer. | This is what we do as well at CCRPC. | We also follow this pattern.
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Reciting the Lord's Prayer at the close of our pastoral prayer is a way to approach my Father along side my brothers and sisters
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