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Is the Lord's Prayer to be (or can it be) prayed during Public Worship? Does this fall in line with the RPW?
Puritanboard Junior
The Westminster Directory of Public Worship States:
And because the prayer which Christ taught his disciples is not only a pattern of prayer, but itself a most comprehensive prayer, we recommend it also to be used in the prayers of the church.
My own understanding (and preference) would be that it should be used on occasion and not every week as it would become too repetitive. I voted "other" for that reason.
Augusta (07-24-2009), Jeff_Bartel (07-25-2009), Marrow Man (07-24-2009)
Administrator
Yes, we may. It certainly falls in line with the RPW.
Josh
CCRPC, RPCGA
Board Rules -Signature Rules
How absurd a tenet is this, which holdeth that there is some particular worship of God allowed, and not commanded? What new light is this which maketh all our divines to have been in the mist, who have acknowledged no worship of God, but that which God hath commanded? Who ever heard of commanded and allowed worship? - George Gillespie
Puritanboard Junior
Matthew 6 is the exegetical basis for the Lord's prayer being a pattern for prayer, whereas Luke 11:2 gives us the exegetical basis for praying it as a prayer...Originally Posted by Romans922
So He said to them, "When you pray, say: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven...
DTK
Sola Scriptura est norma normans non normata
D. T. King, pastor
Christ Presbyterian Church (OPC)
Elkton, Maryland
Augustine (354-430): Therefore what He [i.e., Christ] has deigned to speak to us, we ought to believe that He meant us to understand. But if we do not understand He, being asked, gives understanding, who gave His Word unasked. NPNF1: Vol. VII, Tractates on John, Tractate XXII, §1.
Cranmer1959 (07-24-2009), Jeff_Bartel (07-25-2009), Rev. Todd Ruddell (07-24-2009)
Administrator
I agree with Josh. We certainly can pray the Lord's Prayer in worship. But we shouldn't make that mandatory. What I do in Sunday morning worship is conclude the pastoral prayer with a unison Lord's Prayer.
Rev. Lane Keister
Teaching Elder, PCA, North Dakota (working out of bounds in a CRC and an RCA church)
http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com
http://brahmsgreenglove.blogspot.com
http://accenttranslation.blogspot.com
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glorifyinggodinwv (07-24-2009), he beholds (07-24-2009)
Administrator
This is what we do as well at CCRPC.
Josh
CCRPC, RPCGA
Board Rules -Signature Rules
How absurd a tenet is this, which holdeth that there is some particular worship of God allowed, and not commanded? What new light is this which maketh all our divines to have been in the mist, who have acknowledged no worship of God, but that which God hath commanded? Who ever heard of commanded and allowed worship? - George Gillespie
Puritanboard Freshman
What do you mean "shouldn't make it mandatory"? If it's in the liturgy shouldn't each worshiper participate? Why put it in the liturgy if not?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.
Tony Felich
Pastor, Redeemer Presbyterian Church (PCA)
Overland Park, Kansas
www.redeemer-pca.org
blog: http://reepicheep-ajf.blogspot.com
Cranmer1959 (07-24-2009)
Administrator
I believe that he means that it shouldn't be mandatory that it be in the liturgy.What do you mean "shouldn't make it mandatory"? If it's in the liturgy shouldn't each worshiper participate? Why put it in the liturgy if not?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.
Josh
CCRPC, RPCGA
Board Rules -Signature Rules
How absurd a tenet is this, which holdeth that there is some particular worship of God allowed, and not commanded? What new light is this which maketh all our divines to have been in the mist, who have acknowledged no worship of God, but that which God hath commanded? Who ever heard of commanded and allowed worship? - George Gillespie
Puritanboard Doctor
We do in our church worship. I'm a little confused tho. If something is apart of the RPW, why isn't it mandatory? If it isn't apart of the RPW, then it shouldn't be done. It was my understanding that we are not to put anything in worship that isn't specifically commanded to be there nor are we to leave out anything specifically commanded to be put in there....I thought that was the RPW.
sarah
providence (Only Perfect Church)
wi coldest snowiest state in the union
RN working towards photographer
Cranmer1959 (07-24-2009)
Administrator
God has commanded that we pray in worship. He has not commanded that we use the Lord's Prayer every Sunday. Everyone should participate in prayer, even if only the pastor is praying out loud. Josh understood me correctly. All I am saying is that Jesus said that we should pray like this (the Lord's Prayer). He didn't say that we are limited only to these particular words in prayer.
Rev. Lane Keister
Teaching Elder, PCA, North Dakota (working out of bounds in a CRC and an RCA church)
http://greenbaggins.wordpress.com
http://brahmsgreenglove.blogspot.com
http://accenttranslation.blogspot.com
Click to get: Board Rules -- Signature Requirements -- Suggestions?
OPC'n (07-24-2009)
Puritanboard Doctor
Ok, I think my mind operates too constrictively on subjects like this.
sarah
providence (Only Perfect Church)
wi coldest snowiest state in the union
RN working towards photographer
Puritanboard Sophomore
This is also what I do as well.
Chris
Pastor (PCUSA)
West Virginia
“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:” (1 Peter 5:8 KJV)
Puritanboard Junior
The Westminster Larger Catechism says that it may be prayed as a prayer as long as understanding, faith, and other graces are necessary when praying it.
Pastor Nathan Eshelman, Los Angeles, CA
Reformed Presbyterian Church
PRESBYTERIAN THOUGHTS
Los Angeles Reformed Presbyterian Church
RPCLA Sermons Online
Puritan Reformed Seminary
Puritanboard Junior
I'm interested in the reasons those who've said "No" answered in that way.
Rae W. | Elder @ Grace Central Presbyterian Church | Columbus, OH
Online presence: blog | twitter | facebook
Puritanboard Freshman
The Lord's Prayer is a direct quote from the Bible. WHY wouldn't you pray it every Sunday??
Charlie
Puritanboard Junior
We also follow this pattern.This is what we do as well at CCRPC.
Curt Lovelace
Pastor, Covenant Baptist Church (CBA)
Acton, Maine
Director, Lifework Forum
Sermons at SermonAudio.com/CBCActon
Blogging at Coffee with Curt
Puritanboard Freshman
Reciting the Lord's Prayer at the close of our pastoral prayer is a way to approach my Father along side my brothers and sisters
Sandra, Lady of the Lake
CBA, Acton ME
http://www.viewsfromthedeck.blogspot.com
Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need. Hebrews 4:16
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