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John Frame on RPW

An article by John Frame on RPW.

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Though there was no date, this I think is fairly old. For reviews of Frame's faulty view of the RPW, see Smith and Lachman's "Reframing Presbyterian Worship: A Critical Survey of the Worship Views of John M. Frame and R. J. Gore The Confessional Presbyterian 1 (2005) 116-150, and Frank J. Smith, Ph.D., D.D. with Chris Coldwell "The Regulative Principle of Worship:Sixty Years in Reformed Literature Part One (1946–1999)" CPJ 2 (2006) 89-164, and Part Two (2000–2007) CPJ 3 forthcoming (2007) 159-219.
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Though there was no date, this I think is fairly old. For reviews of Frame's faulty view of the RPW, see Smith and Lachman's "Reframing Presbyterian Worship: A Critical Survey of the Worship Views of John M. Frame and R. J. Gore The Confessional Presbyterian 1 (2005) 116-150, and Frank J. Smith, Ph.D., D.D. with Chris Coldwell "The Regulative Principle of Worship:Sixty Years in Reformed Literature Part One (1946–1999)" CPJ 2 (2006) 89-164, and Part Two (2000–2007) CPJ 3 forthcoming (2007) 159-219.
The CPJ 1, 2, and 3 has an incredibly thoroughgoing analysis of the RPW with specifce reference to Gore et al.
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Though there was no date, this I think is fairly old. For reviews of Frame's faulty view of the RPW, see Smith and Lachman's "Reframing Presbyterian Worship: A Critical Survey of the Worship Views of John M. Frame and R. J. Gore The Confessional Presbyterian 1 (2005) 116-150, and Frank J. Smith, Ph.D., D.D. with Chris Coldwell "The Regulative Principle of Worship:Sixty Years in Reformed Literature Part One (1946–1999)" CPJ 2 (2006) 89-164, and Part Two (2000–2007) CPJ 3 forthcoming (2007) 159-219.
The CPJ 1, 2, and 3 has an incredibly thoroughgoing analysis of the RPW with specifce reference to Gore et al.
Thanks Rich; let me add: Frame may be good on many things (for instance he is cited well in W. Gary Crampton's piece on Open Theism in the 2006 issue of The Confessional Presbyterian) but he is simply OFF the Westminster reservation on the RPW and that is putting it kindly.
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Though there was no date, this I think is fairly old. For reviews of Frame's faulty view of the RPW, see Smith and Lachman's "Reframing Presbyterian Worship: A Critical Survey of the Worship Views of John M. Frame and R. J. Gore The Confessional Presbyterian 1 (2005) 116-150, and Frank J. Smith, Ph.D., D.D. with Chris Coldwell "The Regulative Principle of Worship:Sixty Years in Reformed Literature Part One (1946–1999)" CPJ 2 (2006) 89-164, and Part Two (2000–2007) CPJ 3 forthcoming (2007) 159-219.
The CPJ 1, 2, and 3 has an incredibly thoroughgoing analysis of the RPW with specifce reference to Gore et al.
Thanks Rich; let me add: Frame may be good on many things (for instance he is cited well in W. Gary Crampton's piece on Open Theism in the 2006 issue of The Confessional Presbyterian) but he is simply OFF the Westminster reservation on the RPW and that is putting it kindly.
Yes, very kindly
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