Firefox, while having neat gadgetry, crashed too often.** I have now gone with the new and improved IE.* If anyone knows a better alternate, I am listening.

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J. B. Atken
John Knox PCA
Layman, M.A. student at Louisiana College

Say it ain't so!

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DAVIDIVS DOCTVS VTRIVSQVE LINGVAE
Husband of Emilia
Member: First Reformed Presbyterian Church of Durham (RPCNA) - Durham, NC
Currently in the process of transferring membership to an as-yet-undecided church in Chapel Hill
Student: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, German Literature and Classics

Opera

It is better then IE and does not crash as much as Firefox... It is a great great program.......

On the issue of apostatizing from computer programs, I am thinking of apostatizing from Windows AGAIN and going with a newer version of Linux, maybe Dabian, maybe something else....

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Michael Daniels
Reformed, RPCNA
Denton, Maryland

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I'm wondering what is causing FireFox to crash? In my experience it's been far more stable than IE.

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Andrew Moody
Pastor - Christ Covenant OPC - Amarillo, TX
Director - Amarillo Theological Institute
Owner - Reformation Art
Amarillo Reformed Fellowship

You might want to try Firefox 3 - or wait until it comes out of beta. It is supposed to be better, use less memory, etc,

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Fredrick T. Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA (Katy, TX)
Christ Church Blog

"The heart is the main thing in true religion...It is the hinge and turning-point in the condition of man's soul. If the heart is alive to God and quickened by the Spirit, the man is a living Christian. If the heart is dead and has not the Spirit, the man is dead before God." (J.C. Ryle)

I too became Apostate with the Safari 3. Little sleeker, little better than, FF in my mind.

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~etexas~

What operating system do you use? I recently bought a new laptop with Windows Vista and I have found that Firefox crashes a lot more than it used to with XP.

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Rev. Daniel Kok
Pastor of Grace Reformed Church (URCNA)
Leduc, Alberta CANADA
Church Blog

"there is no creature, either in heaven or on earth, who loves us more than Jesus Christ"
Belgic Confession, Article 26

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What operating system?

Try Firefox without the gadgetry and it won't crash as often.

If you use OS X, then go with this.

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Casey Bessette
Westminster OPC • West Suburbs of Chicago • My Blog: Paradise Regained

"It is part of the calling of the ekklesia to learn to know the love of Christ that surpasses all knowledge and also to make known within the world of science 'the manifold wisdom of God' in order that the final end of theology, as of all things, may be that the name of the Lord is glorified. Theology and dogmatics, too, exist for the Lord's sake." — Herman Bavinck, Reformed Dogmatics, vol. 1, p. 46

Have to be honest Casey, with the improvements on the Safari 3 I do not see the need for Camino.

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~etexas~

If you want to become more of an apostate, you can get a Mac with OS X 10.5, add Ubuntu to it, and download Flock for a web browser for either Ubuntu or Mac or both.

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Joshua Parker
Orthodox Presbyterian Church
Totally Reformed - My Blog
MDiv. Student at Whitefield
Cambridge, MA
"Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over these, but they will be priests of God and the Messiah, and they will reign with Him for 1,000 years." - Revelation 20:6

Windows XP was a solid platform. But Vista on my newest laptop has me contemplating the strange fire of Mac. I just wish that Libronix had its Mac version out already. With more than 3,500 books in the Libronix format on my machine, it is prohibitive for me to change yet.

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Dennis E. McFadden, Ex Mainline Baptist (in Remission)
Atherton Baptist Homes, CEO
First Baptist Church of Alhambra, Member, Transformation Ministries (CA)

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My eyes nearly popped out of my head when I saw those words ....then I read on

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Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)

I have just recently rejected both windows and mac os. I am currently migrating to FreeBsd. FireFox works best for me with most sites, but I would like to run Dillo or Cheetah instead. They are both smaller and more streamlined than FireFox. Flock has a problem with amd64 systems, until that is worked out, I won't use it. Now if only this site was optimized for dillo...

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Josh Taylor
Verde Valley Reformed Chapel, OPC
Cottonwood, AZ

Two reasons I use Camino:

1. It uses the same rendering engine as Firefox, so web pages generally look right (haven't used Safari for a while, so I don't know how good it's doing in that category)

2. I can't use the latest version of Safari anyway 'cause I've got Panther and Apple won't let me update for free

Camino is fast, free, and very stable -- and open source.

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Casey Bessette
Westminster OPC • West Suburbs of Chicago • My Blog: Paradise Regained

"It is part of the calling of the ekklesia to learn to know the love of Christ that surpasses all knowledge and also to make known within the world of science 'the manifold wisdom of God' in order that the final end of theology, as of all things, may be that the name of the Lord is glorified. Theology and dogmatics, too, exist for the Lord's sake." — Herman Bavinck, Reformed Dogmatics, vol. 1, p. 46

Actually I woud agree FULLY with you in regard to the older Safari vs Camino, if you know someone with the newest Safari, ask if you can mess around on it, I think you would be pleased (frankly...I think they borrowed some ideas from FF)

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~etexas~

Now I feel bold enough to confess too. I dumped Firefox months ago. I didn't use gadgets, but it kept crashing.

I've tried all sorts of OSs, but I'm pretty much stuck with the Windows/Office complex because of people I deal with and where I live (home state of MS).

Even our state has drunk the Koolaid. You could not conduct online business with the state unless you were running IE or Netscape. Safari, FF, Opera, etc., sorry, move to another state or use the mail.

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R.Vic Bottomly
Providence Reformed Baptist Church, Tacoma, WA

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Ouch for FF!

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~etexas~

It seems anything is worse off if you are using Vista.

Unless you have 2G of ram you are pretty much doomed to problems.

You can remove what they call "bloatware" that comes with Vista and get a little bit better performance.

This year I am going to force myself to learn about open source options.

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Richard H. King
Providence PCA
Lubbock, Texas
"No matter how far a man goes, he eventually finds out God's already there." John Wayne - the last line in "Chisum"

Now that Netscape (Navigator) will no longer be supported after February, I wonder what will take its place?

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Joshua Parker
Orthodox Presbyterian Church
Totally Reformed - My Blog
MDiv. Student at Whitefield
Cambridge, MA
"Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over these, but they will be priests of God and the Messiah, and they will reign with Him for 1,000 years." - Revelation 20:6

I'm a Mac user, and while I use Firefox for some of it's tools, I still prefer Safari. They have a Windows version now, you can download it for free and give it a spin, I think you may be pleasantly surprised.

Apple - Safari 3 Public Beta

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Thomas Weddle
Member, Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church
Evansville, Indiana

You're all going to (browser) Hell. Every one of you.

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Rae W. | Elder @ Grace Central Presbyterian Church | Columbus, OH
not another blog, v2.0

I've been running Firefox as my primary browser for the past three years and have never encountered crash problems.

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Bill Brown
Elder
Grace Baptist Church
Anne Arundel County, Maryland

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As others have said, Opera is a rockin' browser. For basic web surfing, I think it's number one. It's a slim piece of software too. The only problem with it is that some sites aren't as compatible with it as you'd like.

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Devin Brian
1689er
Attending Trinity Baptist Church in Shreveport, LA.
Vivian, Louisiana, USA

"The fall of man is written in too legible characters not to be understood: Those that deny it, by their denying, prove it." - George Whitefield

Where is Browser H**l anyway?

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~etexas~

I use FireFox 2.0.0.x in both Windows and Ubuntu Linux. I think that it works better, even renders better, under Linux. I'm looking forward to the 3.x release. There aren't enough of my favorite extensions working in 3.x yet to move over. As to instabilities, they seem to be related to Adobe's Flash plug-in. Restarting Firefox periodically seems to help.

I thought WinXP was OK for the most part, but Windows Updates would always break things, sometimes important things. Vista broke almost everything, so I