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Old 12-29-2007, 12:35 PM
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I am apostating from Firefox

Firefox, while having neat gadgetry, crashed too often.** I have now gone with the new and improved IE.* If anyone knows a better alternate, I am listening.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:36 PM
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:38 PM
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Opera

It is better then IE and does not crash as much as Firefox... It is a great great program.......

On the issue of apostatizing from computer programs, I am thinking of apostatizing from Windows AGAIN and going with a newer version of Linux, maybe Dabian, maybe something else....
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:39 PM
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I'm wondering what is causing FireFox to crash? In my experience it's been far more stable than IE.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:39 PM
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Firefox, while having neat gadgetry, crashed too often.** I have now gone with the new and improved IE.* If anyone knows a better alternate, I am listening.
You might want to try Firefox 3 - or wait until it comes out of beta. It is supposed to be better, use less memory, etc,
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:40 PM
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I too became Apostate with the Safari 3. Little sleeker, little better than, FF in my mind.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:52 PM
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Firefox, while having neat gadgetry, crashed too often.** I have now gone with the new and improved IE.* If anyone knows a better alternate, I am listening.
What operating system do you use? I recently bought a new laptop with Windows Vista and I have found that Firefox crashes a lot more than it used to with XP.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:52 PM
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What operating system?

Try Firefox without the gadgetry and it won't crash as often.

If you use OS X, then go with this.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:56 PM
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What operating system?

Try Firefox without the gadgetry and it won't crash as often.

If you use OS X, then go with this.
Have to be honest Casey, with the improvements on the Safari 3 I do not see the need for Camino.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:25 PM
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If you want to become more of an apostate, you can get a Mac with OS X 10.5, add Ubuntu to it, and download Flock for a web browser for either Ubuntu or Mac or both.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:43 PM
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If you want to become more of an apostate, you can get a Mac with OS X 10.5, add Ubuntu to it, and download Flock for a web browser for either Ubuntu or Mac or both.
Windows XP was a solid platform. But Vista on my newest laptop has me contemplating the strange fire of Mac. I just wish that Libronix had its Mac version out already. With more than 3,500 books in the Libronix format on my machine, it is prohibitive for me to change yet.
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Old 12-29-2007, 02:05 PM
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I have just recently rejected both windows and mac os. I am currently migrating to FreeBsd. FireFox works best for me with most sites, but I would like to run Dillo or Cheetah instead. They are both smaller and more streamlined than FireFox. Flock has a problem with amd64 systems, until that is worked out, I won't use it. Now if only this site was optimized for dillo...

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Old 12-29-2007, 02:07 PM
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What operating system?

Try Firefox without the gadgetry and it won't crash as often.

If you use OS X, then go with this.
Have to be honest Casey, with the improvements on the Safari 3 I do not see the need for Camino.
Two reasons I use Camino:

1. It uses the same rendering engine as Firefox, so web pages generally look right (haven't used Safari for a while, so I don't know how good it's doing in that category)

2. I can't use the latest version of Safari anyway 'cause I've got Panther and Apple won't let me update for free

Camino is fast, free, and very stable -- and open source.
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Old 12-29-2007, 02:30 PM
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What operating system?

Try Firefox without the gadgetry and it won't crash as often.

If you use OS X, then go with this.
Have to be honest Casey, with the improvements on the Safari 3 I do not see the need for Camino.
Two reasons I use Camino:

1. It uses the same rendering engine as Firefox, so web pages generally look right (haven't used Safari for a while, so I don't know how good it's doing in that category)

2. I can't use the latest version of Safari anyway 'cause I've got Panther and Apple won't let me update for free

Camino is fast, free, and very stable -- and open source.
Actually I woud agree FULLY with you in regard to the older Safari vs Camino, if you know someone with the newest Safari, ask if you can mess around on it, I think you would be pleased (frankly...I think they borrowed some ideas from FF)
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Now I feel bold enough to confess too. I dumped Firefox months ago. I didn't use gadgets, but it kept crashing.

I've tried all sorts of OSs, but I'm pretty much stuck with the Windows/Office complex because of people I deal with and where I live (home state of MS).

Even our state has drunk the Koolaid. You could not conduct online business with the state unless you were running IE or Netscape. Safari, FF, Opera, etc., sorry, move to another state or use the mail.
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Old 12-29-2007, 02:37 PM
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Now I feel bold enough to confess too. I dumped Firefox months ago. I didn't use gadgets, but it kept crashing.

I've tried all sorts of OSs, but I'm pretty much stuck with the Windows/Office complex because of people I deal with and where I live (home state of MS).

Even our state has drunk the Koolaid. You could not conduct online business with the state unless you were running IE or Netscape. Safari, FF, Opera, etc., sorry, move to another state or use the mail.
Ouch for FF!
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It seems anything is worse off if you are using Vista.

Unless you have 2G of ram you are pretty much doomed to problems.

You can remove what they call "bloatware" that comes with Vista and get a little bit better performance.

This year I am going to force myself to learn about open source options.
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Now I feel bold enough to confess too. I dumped Firefox months ago. I didn't use gadgets, but it kept crashing.

I've tried all sorts of OSs, but I'm pretty much stuck with the Windows/Office complex because of people I deal with and where I live (home state of MS).

Even our state has drunk the Koolaid. You could not conduct online business with the state unless you were running IE or Netscape. Safari, FF, Opera, etc., sorry, move to another state or use the mail.
Now that Netscape (Navigator) will no longer be supported after February, I wonder what will take its place?
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I'm a Mac user, and while I use Firefox for some of it's tools, I still prefer Safari. They have a Windows version now, you can download it for free and give it a spin, I think you may be pleasantly surprised.

Apple - Safari 3 Public Beta
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I've been running Firefox as my primary browser for the past three years and have never encountered crash problems.
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As others have said, Opera is a rockin' browser. For basic web surfing, I think it's number one. It's a slim piece of software too. The only problem with it is that some sites aren't as compatible with it as you'd like.
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Where is Browser H**l anyway?
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I use FireFox 2.0.0.x in both Windows and Ubuntu Linux. I think that it works better, even renders better, under Linux. I'm looking forward to the 3.x release. There aren't enough of my favorite extensions working in 3.x yet to move over. As to instabilities, they seem to be related to Adobe's Flash plug-in. Restarting Firefox periodically seems to help.

I thought WinXP was OK for the most part, but Windows Updates would always break things, sometimes important things. Vista broke almost everything, so I