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Old 04-30-2008, 05:48 PM
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How Bad is Windows Vista?

Ok, I've seen so many complaints about it; just how unstable, bad, confusing, hard, etc. is Vista? I just don't think I want to face it on my next PC upgrade.
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Never used it. I ditched Microsoft years ago.
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My only problem is that it runs slow.
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Where's the option "Vista is the Devil!"

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Chris,

I have used it for several months now. Some people love it and swear by it; the rest of us swear at it.

Much of it is intuitive and easy enough to follow. They have added some functionality in the multi-media area, rearranged some old things I was used to in XP, and made some things more irritating (e.g., the constant confirmation of every single step to be taken in some operations. I am just about frustrated enough to apostasize to Mac on my next computer purchase.
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My Dad bought a laptop from Dell with Vista on it. I am greatly disappointed. We have had nothing but issues with it and peripherals.

Problems with Vista. Not the puter.
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Where's the option "Vista is the Devil!"

That's the same as the "Get a Mac" option.
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It does run slow at times mainly because of (as far as I can see) all the eye candy.

Otherwise I am fairly happy with it.
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I bought a cheap laptop with vista installed last year and it is very slow. I don't really use the laptop much, so I can't comment on it's features but if you have a faster setup, it might not be bad. I have had no stability problems.
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Chris,

I have used it for several months now. Some people love it and swear by it; the rest of us swear at it.

Much of it is intuitive and easy enough to follow. They have added some functionality in the multi-media area, rearranged some old things I was used to in XP, and made some things more irritating (e.g., the constant confirmation of every single step to be taken in some operations. I am just about frustrated enough to apostasize to Mac on my next computer purchase.

Windows Security Center --> Other Security Settings

Disable User Account Control

Never worry about prompts again.
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I think I posted this elsewhere, but here is one "Technolawyer's" opinion. After working with it for quite a while, he opted for the "downgrade option" back to XP.

TechnoLawyer Blog: Ross, Tell Us What You Really Think About Windows Vista

I don't have it. I've tried it but didn't see the need to buy it.
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I haven't tried any of these tweaks yet but they might be helpful for those of you where Vista is slowing things down.

PC World - Business Center: How to Speed Up Windows Vista

If you try any of these and find they work, please report back on the tweaks that seemed to work the best for your system.
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I have had Vista now on my new PC since Feb last year. I have no complaints and think its great although admittedly during the first couple of months some programmes such as my normal anit-virus and anti-spyware wouldn't work and had to use another type. If it is running slow perhaps its because Vista was installed over XP or whatever and other factors are slowing it down. On my previous PC I upgraded Windows 98 to XP and it was never the same as new PCs with XP installed from the start.
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vista can work like a charm, you have got to train it though.

Id suggest surfing around majorgeeks.com for help on making vista work. (pro pc)
go to macrumors.com to get a balance pro mac side

games may become vista only(on the pc side)
I would simply advise you to look at macs very closely, they are completely different, but easy to learn. so i voted get a mac.

there is a way to get about $300 off brand new macs from apple. If you want i can direct you to the info needed to do it. Its not illegal, or unethical its just off the beaten path, hence ill share it in PMs only.
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If you get a minute
...read this thing I heard Glenn Beck say on the radio yesterday.
It is funny and in my opinion it is so true about Vista frustrations.

Glenn Beck - Current Events & Politics - Glenn Beck: DocX


and then there is this...

Vista fails the Grandpa test | Computerworld Blogs
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Vista does need to be trained. I am no geek. But the book Hacking Windows Vista, by Steve Sinchak, takes you step by step (and I mean every step; that's why the book is absolutely brilliant for non-geeks!) through all the steps you need to go through to get Vista zipping along at a great speed, and not only that, it will speed up your browser. I really like Vista. But you have to train it. It takes about 4-6 hours to go through Sinchak's book and speed up the machine. I am convinced that if everyone bought that book and went through the whole bit, step by step, there would be considerably less frustration with Vista.
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My only problem is that it runs slow.
I have Vista and it runs extremely fast. But I also have 4 GB of memory. Vista is a memory hog. 2 GB is a bare minimum. 4 GB is preferred.
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Thumbs down Yuck!

I downgraded to XP after three weeks of frustration!

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It came with my laptop and it's fine with me. I especially like the new Solitaire look!
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I hated it at first because of all the security, the constant asking for verification having to type in a password every few seconds but I figured out how to shut that off so now I have gotten used to it.

The thing I don't like is that after about 2 years of it being out a lot of things still are not Vista compatible. I had to go back and repurchase some programs and had to just let some go because it was getting expensive.

I have heard programmers say that it is a real pain to work with. My wife says the Tech guys where she works absolutely hate trying to do anything with it. Unless you want to go for a Mac, this is what we are stuck with. Or squeeze more life out of your old computer.
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