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email db software?

I have 12, 13 or more years of email in MS Outlook archives. Is there any kind of database or other software that this could be exported to which can be better at preserving it and searching it. I often think I remember finding something out once, and then I can't find it and neither do I remember the resolution (sad shape am I). I think maybe something is better than the Outlook searching feature.
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When heresy rises in an evangelical body, it is never frank and open. It always begins by skulking, and assuming a disguise. Its advocates, when together, boast of great improvements, and congratulate one another on having gone greatly beyond the ‘old dead orthodoxy,’ and on having left behind many of its antiquated errors: but when taxed with deviations from the received faith, they complain of the unreasonableness of their accusers, as they ‘differ from it only in words.’ This has been the standing course of errorists ever since the apostolic age. Samuel Miller, Introductory essay, The Articles of the Synod of Dort (1841).

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1. Do you actually use Outlook or Outlook Express?
2. When you talk about "preserving" your e-mail are you concerned about losing it? I recommend backing all your data up on your local machine using a service like Mozy Online Backup: Simple, Automatic, Secure
3. If your main concern is being able to search your e-mail better you can use this tool: Google Desktop - Features

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I do backups to USB drives with Acronis. It is just better access I want. Easier searching may suffice. Is it Google Desktop free? And is it true desktop, Google won't come snooping? As I say, the searching looks of use, but for long term I wonder about a better means of storing and categorizing, etc.
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Chris,

What you want is X1. It is by far the best search program that is out there. I think the "non-networked drive" version is free. Go and check it out. It is awesome. I use it all the time, and can find what I need from a couple of GB of emails (I have about 10 years saved, both personal and work). I use it all the time.

X1 - Unified, Actionable Search
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X1 does look interesting. I found the place on their site where they talk about it being free. Basically you download the trial version and it expires in 30 days, but remains functional for Outlook:

Download the X1 Professional Client

I've been using Google Desktop, but I allow it to index only certain things and I don't let it index automatically. I'm not sure if it sends info to google or not, but I'm careful not to let it index confidential files. I'm on a lawyer-tech board and so far nobody has raised the issue (many have recommended it). I find it workable and useful, but I still don't quite trust them.
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X1 does look interesting. I found the place on their site where they talk about it being free. Basically you download the trial version and it expires in 30 days, but remains functional for Outlook:

Download the X1 Professional Client

I've been using Google Desktop, but I allow it to index only certain things and I don't let it index automatically. I'm not sure if it sends info to google or not, but I'm careful not to let it index confidential files. I'm on a lawyer-tech board and so far nobody has raised the issue (many have recommended it). I find it workable and useful, but I still don't quite trust them.
Yes. X1 is far superior to Google Desktop Search. You can decide what you want searched, whether content or names only. So you can find just about any file, in addition to emails.

I've never seen anything to rival it.
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Thanks, Fred. I'm downloading it.
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Yes; agreed. Thanks very much Fred. I uninstalled Google dt (sorry Rich). This is really what I want and it allows me to add the other pst files to include. Takes a while to index a decade and a half of emails though!
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Hey, don't worry about offending me. I don't use Google DT. I've actually started using GMail so much that I usually search there first anyway. Thanks for the tip on X1 actually.

I do recommend offsite backup for your important files. Pretty soon I'm also going to help you set up Google Apps for your e-mail addresses.
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Rich, who do you recommend for off site backup; and is it constant update or how do these things work?
x1 is pretty great. Exactly what I need to find some well hidden away old emails.
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Personally, for my computer files I use Mozy Online Backup: Simple, Automatic, Secure It installs on your computer, you select the files you want backed up and it takes care of the rest. It's a month by month service and "technically" offers unlimited storage for the files on your computer hard drive. I have about 80GB of files backed up.
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Personally, for my computer files I use Mozy Online Backup: Simple, Automatic, Secure It installs on your computer, you select the files you want backed up and it takes care of the rest. It's a month by month service and "technically" offers unlimited storage for the files on your computer hard drive. I have about 80GB of files backed up.

I thought JungleDisk looked interesting. It's pretty cheap:


JungleDisk - Reliable online storage powered by Amazon S3 â„¢ - Jungle Disk
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Personally, for my computer files I use Mozy Online Backup: Simple, Automatic, Secure It installs on your computer, you select the files you want backed up and it takes care of the rest. It's a month by month service and "technically" offers unlimited storage for the files on your computer hard drive. I have about 80GB of files backed up.

I thought JungleDisk looked interesting. It's pretty cheap:


JungleDisk - Reliable online storage powered by Amazon S3 â„¢ - Jungle Disk
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Personally, for my computer files I use Mozy Online Backup: Simple, Automatic, Secure It installs on your computer, you select the files you want backed up and it takes care of the rest. It's a month by month service and "technically" offers unlimited storage for the files on your computer hard drive. I have about 80GB of files backed up.

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Yeah, and I tried to delete it too! That didn't work either.

For some reason it was locking on the upload for the comment. . . . the comment. . . .comment....
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Jungledisk may or may not be cheaper depending on how much you have to back up. For me, Jungledisk would be more expensive.
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