No, I think we should look into it further. Let's all start contacting orthodox scholars and

1: find out what they believe about NT authors quoting from Greek OT versions.
2: find out why or why not.

Clinging to unicorns and dragons existing like many AVers even here on this board isn't an option for me, or many who are following along, so old, non-confessional opinions on subjects like that can IMHO still be called marginal or conspiratorial under a range of conditions.

"Edersheim said Aramaic was a form of Hebrew, and I can prove he said it, therefore it is a legitimate source" just doesn't cut it. People make mistakes, and the knowledge of the Kingdom advances.

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All the more reason to start contacting specialists. Let's do it.

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Prudence might have suggested to you to have followed such a course and to have made sure of your facts before you publicly, dogmatically, and rudely denounced another person's defence of a position which differed from your own.

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Tim, as much as I appreciate the offer, I really don't have time to go line-by-line with you through Beale and Carson's Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament right now. I do sincerely appreciate your willingness to do this; but it is both unnecessary for answering the question I posed, and also just not something I have time to do at this point.

I need to let the issue stand for now. Grace and peace, brother.

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First off Tim. I don't consider myself an extremist. And you were classifying all of us who hold to a position or listen to the Reformers concerns as being in line with extremist AVers. That was what I was wanting you to cool down on.

BTW, here is my stance on the subject. I am not fully convinced either way. But I do like the majority text better. I am not necessarily a defender of the Textus Receptus. I still have a lot to learn on the subject. I am mostly put off by your condescending attitude and the way you discuss this and how you are grouping others in a conspiracy fanatical mind set when that isn't necessarily true of the people who are discussing it here.

I am not piling on. I truly thought you were avoiding the question. I have a head cold and I might be a bit slow tonight. Sorry. I do feel you are disrespectful to others in your approach here.

As you may have noted I did say that I don't believe an affirmative to the question necessarily would lead you into the place you claim it would. I was not being strong handed.

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I specifically asked that sources be adduced on this question somewhere above. All other topics we discuss here we resort to literature. This subject will not be any different. No one is calling anyone and dragging them into a conversation they did not start. If you cannot adduce scholarly literature, drop it. This thread is on ice for 24.

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One more thing. I want to see reference materials. Calling specialists is not a good way to dialogue here. Written words are a bit more concrete and no misrepresentation or partial understanding can be adduced as easily with a written reference. That isn't true with hearsay.

I am tired of the extremist label in this discussion. As someone noted to me...Tim V's view amounts to this it seems. "Owen is merely wrong, but if moderns today don't think so, you're an AV only cultist".


This will stop. You can disagree with someone without using ad hominems.