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04-09-2008, 12:39 PM
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| | Reformation Study Bible vs. The Spirit of the Reformation Study Bible Friends:
I have before me two study Bibles:
R.C. Sproul and Keith Matheson, general editors, Reformation Study Bible, (Orlando: Ligonier, 2005).
Richard Pratt, general editor, Spirit of the Reformation Study Bible, (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2003).
Both Bibles claim to be outworkings of the older "New Geneva Study Bible" that RC Sproul edited.
Besides general editor and version (Sproul's ESV; Pratt's NIV) does anyone know what the differences are? How could Zondervan publish theirs when the list of contributors is the same from both? | 
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| | | They are both excellent Bibles. I have both. I like the binding better on the ESV and the text font, but I think the notes are better in the S.O.T.R Study Bible. It is also a bonus to have the Creeds & Confessions at the end of the NIV which Sprouls doesn't have. I like the ESV translation better, than the NIV.
With all that said, the S.O.T.R study Bible is the winner because of the overall notes and additional materials.
My suggestion. Get both! | 
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| | | Both. ESV better. However, notes and confessions in SOTRSB are GREAT!!! Just wish it wasn't NIV. | 
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| | | I prefer the notes and confessions available in the Spirit of the Reformation Study Bible over the Sproul bible; however, I do not prefer the NIV translation.
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04-09-2008, 03:23 PM
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| | | Does anyone know why the SOTR Bible has not been made available in a translation that is acceptable to Reformed people? | 
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| | | I have the SOTR Bible and the NKJV New Geneva Study Bible Although I agree it is very handy and nice to have the creeds and confessions in the back of the SOTR Bible, I find myself almost never using it because it is NIV which I try not to use, especially for studying.
I got the NKJV New Geneva Study Bible about a year ago which I really like (because of the version). Mind you, this was the version I believe the other two were based off of...why not get the original (or all three).
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Originally Posted by nleshelman Does anyone know why the SOTR Bible has not been made available in a translation that is acceptable to Reformed people? | The NIV is acceptable to many Reformed people, but it's losing popularity. | 
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Originally Posted by nleshelman Does anyone know why the SOTR Bible has not been made available in a translation that is acceptable to Reformed people? | Actually the New Geneva Study Bible was supposed to be NIV! The publishing house that started the project (and had a license from Zondervan) went out of business. Another group stepped up to the plate on this but did not have a NIV license, so it was done with the NKJV text, which was later replaced with the ESV text.
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Originally Posted by Reformed-Kermit ...why not get the original... |  | 
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Originally Posted by Reformed-Kermit Although I agree it is very handy and nice to have the creeds and confessions in the back of the SOTR Bible, I find myself almost never using it because it is NIV which I try not to use, especially for studying.
I got the NKJV New Geneva Study Bible about a year ago which I really like (because of the version). Mind you, this was the version I believe the other two were based off of...why not get the original (or all three). |
Know a good place to buy this? The only place I could find was Amazon. | 
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He used to work for Zondervan and I think that he has a few copies. | 
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Originally Posted by Backwoods Presbyterian Quote:
Originally Posted by Reformed-Kermit Although I agree it is very handy and nice to have the creeds and confessions in the back of the SOTR Bible, I find myself almost never using it because it is NIV which I try not to use, especially for studying.
I got the NKJV New Geneva Study Bible about a year ago which I really like (because of the version). Mind you, this was the version I believe the other two were based off of...why not get the original (or all three). |
Know a good place to buy this? The only place I could find was Amazon. | Email PB member: jawyman
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| | | Benjamin--Ligonier Ministries Store has both hardcopies and genuine leather editions of the New Geneva Study Bible in the NKJV.
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Originally Posted by Reformed-Kermit ...why not get the original... |  | Seth,
I do have this as well. Maybe I am a bit crazy- I have all three earlier mentioned: New Geneva, SOTR Bible, and Reformation Study Bible.
BUT, the reason that I am not a big fan of the Geneva translation or even the AV, is that I am confessionally bound to the Word of God being translated into the vulgar tongue (WCF 1.7) The Geneva, and AV, IMHO, do not meet this confessional requirement. | 
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Originally Posted by sastark Quote:
Originally Posted by Reformed-Kermit ...why not get the original... |  | Seth,
I do have this as well. Maybe I am a bit crazy- I have all three earlier mentioned: New Geneva, SOTR Bible, and Reformation Study Bible.
BUT, the reason that I am not a big fan of the Geneva translation or even the AV, is that I am confessionally bound to the Word of God being translated into the vulgar tongue (WCF 1.7) The Geneva, and AV, IMHO, do not meet this confessional requirement. | Oh, don't get me wrong: I love my New Geneva Study Bible (NKJV) for that exact reason. I do, however, believe the 1599GB is easier to read than the KJV and is a great tool. | 
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Originally Posted by nleshelman Quote:
Originally Posted by sastark | Seth,
I do have this as well. Maybe I am a bit crazy- I have all three earlier mentioned: New Geneva, SOTR Bible, and Reformation Study Bible.
BUT, the reason that I am not a big fan of the Geneva translation or even the AV, is that I am confessionally bound to the Word of God being translated into the vulgar tongue (WCF 1.7) The Geneva, and AV, IMHO, do not meet this confessional requirement. | Oh, don't get me wrong: I love my New Geneva Study Bible (NKJV) for that exact reason. I do, however, believe the 1599GB is easier to read than the KJV and is a great tool. | Me too! | 
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Originally Posted by nleshelman Me too! |  | 
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Originally Posted by caddy They are both excellent Bibles. I have both. I like the binding better on the ESV and the text font, but I think the notes are better in the S.O.T.R Study Bible. It is also a bonus to have the Creeds & Confessions at the end of the NIV which Sprouls doesn't have. I like the ESV translation better, than the NIV.
With all that said, the S.O.T.R study Bible is the winner because of the overall notes and additional materials.
My suggestion. Get both! |
However, (though I have both) I find that I tend to reach for the (NKJV) New Geneva Study Bible before either of the others. I prefer the NKJV over either NIV or ESV ... but I'm wierd like that. 
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Originally Posted by Reformed-Kermit Although I agree it is very handy and nice to have the creeds and confessions in the back of the SOTR Bible, I find myself almost never using it because it is NIV which I try not to use, especially for studying.
I got the NKJV New Geneva Study Bible about a year ago which I really like (because of the version). Mind you, this was the version I believe the other two were based off of...why not get the original (or all three). |
Know a good place to buy this? The only place I could find was Amazon. | Try Third Millenium Ministries. The leaders of it are basically who produced the NIV SOTR. Apparently they are out of the hardcover but their prices on the leather are barely more than you'd pay retail for hardcover. It looks like supplies are becoming scarce and I wouldn't be surprised if this goes out of print soon, a casualty of the NIV's decline in popularity among the Reformed as well as the ESV Reformation Study Bible coming out soon after this did. I never saw many copies of this bible in the stores anyway compared to the ESV RSB.
Also see here.
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