Is The NASB Dispie?

etexas · #1 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 01:01 PM

OK, I use the AV and the NASB for CT readings, I work out with an OPC friend who ALWAYS pokes fun at the NASB saying it has strong Dispie leanings. Sorry.....I cannot find that. I would like some other input on this "slander".

etexas · #2 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 01:46 PM

WIND BLOWS..........CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP. A Tumbleweed rolls by lazily........anyone??????? Really in a weird way this has been bothering me. Help!

ChristopherPaul · #3 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 01:59 PM

Why not just ask your OPC friend to actually guide you towards the truth instead of throwing unedifying darts?

etexas · #4 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherPaul

Why not just ask your OPC friend to actually guide you towards the truth instead of throwing unedifying darts?

Therein lies the rub.....he just points me to those denominations he does not agree with and avoids "guilty" passages and verses! That is why I appeal to the collective wisdom of my PB friends on this issue. HELP!

ChristopherPaul · #5 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 02:19 PM

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Therein lies the rub.....he just points me to those denominations he does not agree with and avoids "guilty" passages and verses! That is why I appeal to the collective wisdom of my PB friends on this issue. HELP!

Well, I prefer NASB over any other translation and have never heard such a charge. So until this guy takes the effort to steer you away from error as a loving brother would or should, I say stick with what is known and recommended by those approved within our confessional churches over some hear say from a friend of a friend of a internet blogger etc..

etexas · #6 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherPaul

Well, I prefer NASB over any other translation and have never heard such a charge. So until this guy takes the effort to steer you away from error as a loving brother would or should, I say stick with what is known and recommended by those approved within our confessional churches over some hear say from a friend of a friend of a internet blogger etc..

Thank you Chris. I rather agree, my OPC friend is ga-ga over the ESV, so my discussions about the merits of the NASB have been fruitless.

larryjf · #7 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 02:44 PM

One such example could be...

In Dan 9:27 the NASB adds "grain" to "offering" which dispensationalists point to for the restoration of the temple. The adding of "grain" could be an attempt to show this as a memorial sacrifice instead of an actual one.

etexas · #8 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by larryjf

One such example could be...

In Dan 9:27 the NASB adds "grain" to "offering" which dispensationalists point to for the restoration of the temple. The adding of "grain" could be an attempt to show this as a memorial sacrifice instead of an actual one.

Bad reflection on me.......or perhaps not (depends whose side you are on! :John Lennon) Really if that is the best argument the dispies can come up with well.......it is weak at best.

Pax Vobiscum

etexas · #9 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 04:09 PM

What is the best Bible based on the CT with which to look into this issue?

etexas · #10 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 05:20 PM

A shameless self "bump"........I just wanted the opinions of those now coming in.

etexas · #11 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 06:25 PM

One more self serving bump.

MrMerlin777 · #12 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 06:33 PM

I can't say as I can find the text of any English Bible to favor dispensationalism over any other scheme. There are of course many "study" bibles that are dispy in there marginal notations. Personally, since I can't read Greek or Hebrew I use several English Bibles when I'm studying to get as much out of a passage as I can. I use the 1599 Geneva, AV, NKJV, ESV, NIV and to a smaller extent the NASB (mainly because I do not own one and have to go online to view it). I suppose if I really dug I could find somthing in all of these English translations to support a dispy POV. Most of the "ultra-dispys" I know are also KJV only IFB types.

etexas · #13 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMerlin777

I can't say as I can find the text of any English Bible to favor dispensationalism over any other scheme. There are of course many "study" bibles that are dispy in there marginal notations. Personally, since I can't read Greek or Hebrew I use several English Bibles when I'm studying to get as much out of a passage as I can. I use the 1599 Geneva, AV, NKJV, ESV, NIV and to a smaller extent the NASB (mainly because I do not own one and have to go online to view it). I suppose if I really dug I could find somthing in all of these English translations to support a dispy POV. Most of the "ultra-dispys" I know are also KJV only IFB types.

What is the IFB?

ChristopherPaul · #14 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 06:54 PM

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What is the IFB?

I think it stands for some sort of Fundamental Baptist.

MrMerlin777 · #15 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 06:55 PM

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What is the IFB?

Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches.

MrMerlin777 · #16 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherPaul

I think it stands for some sort of Fundamental Baptist.

Irate maybe? Irritating? or perhaps Independent.

Well, they're Independent, often get Irate, and are definitely Irritating sometimes so all could apply I guess.

That said I've rarely seen people with as big a heart for the lost than the IFBs. Bad as there doctrine is at times they do have that.

etexas · #17 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 07:10 PM

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Well, they're Independent, often get Irate, and are definitely Irritating sometimes so all could apply I guess.

That said I've rarely seen people with as big a heart for the lost than the IFBs. Bad as there doctrine is at times they do have that.

Actually a lot of Fundamental Churches do have very much a heart for the lost. They are very big into missions. I once argued with a hyper-Calvinist over the need to witness in word and action. It got..........heated! Anyway! I am hijacking my own thread! NASB, DISPY or not. I say no but there are a lot of my PB friends who have not weighed in here! I want to here from you! Pax.

Andrew P.C. · #18 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by I follow Jesus

OK, I use the AV and the NASB for CT readings, I work out with an OPC friend who ALWAYS pokes fun at the NASB saying it has strong Dispie leanings. Sorry.....I cannot find that. I would like some other input on this "slander".

Lol, well, it is slander on the version, but not the christian. I use the nasb.

I almost did turn to the ESV, but then I started to do reasearch and I like the fact that the NASB isn't strictly MT text, like the ESV, but uses the alexandrian texts.

More info on texts would be :

http://www.bible-researcher.com/

etexas · #19 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew P.C.

Lol, well, it is slander on the version, but not the christian. I use the nasb.

I almost did turn to the ESV, but then I started to do reasearch and I like the fact that the NASB isn't strictly MT text, like the ESV, but uses the alexandrian texts.

More info on texts would be :

http://www.bible-researcher.com/

Thank you Andrew! I did put "slander" in quotes so all would know it was one of my silly jokes!

Thank you for the link brother.

Pax Vobiscum

Andrew P.C. · #20 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by I follow Jesus

Thank you Andrew! I did put "slander" in quotes so all would know it was one of my silly jokes!

Thank you for the link brother.

Pax Vobiscum

Brother, anytime.

By the way, I don't know latin "Pax Vobiscum".

etexas · #21 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 07:53 PM

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Brother, anytime.

By the way, I don't know latin "Pax Vobiscum".

Peace be with you.

Andrew P.C. · #22 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 07:58 PM

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Peace be with you.

Sweet, I learned a latin phrase.

Well,besides the one I do know, Vox Dei.

etexas · #23 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 08:04 PM

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Sweet, I learned a latin phrase.

Well,besides the one I do know, Vox Dei.

Chuckle..........I went to a classical prep-boarding school. Studied Latin there 4 years.

Andrew P.C. · #24 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by I follow Jesus

Chuckle..........I went to a classical prep-boarding school. Studied Latin there 4 years.

Lucky

etexas · #25 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew P.C.

Lucky

Did not think so at the time!

Andrew P.C. · #26 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by I follow Jesus

Did not think so at the time!

Well, you could have also put the smackdown on the teachers.

(I like using this.)