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Old 03-25-2008, 08:58 PM
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I'd like to see a Bavinck avatar. Any chance?
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Good catch, grasshopper. you pass the test.

But because he understood creation and providence as the foundation for human experience, he might have felt free to use that language for its existential import. After all, Jesus HIMSELF said,

Now by chance a priest was going down that road..." (Luke 10:31)

Wonder why Jesus felt comfortable talking that way?
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Are you asking for an avatar or a smilie?

If you want an avatar, find a public domain image and crop it to size (Max 150 X 150) and either upload it to your profile or link it from a photo-host.
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Are you asking for an avatar or a smilie?

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Vic,

You sort of look like a modern day Bavinck, without the beard.
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dude awesome! I can't decide who I like more, Herman Bavinck, or John Murray! I have Reformed Dogmatics and the Collected Writings right next to each other on my bookshelf. It's practically idolatry!

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Vic,

You sort of look like a modern day Bavinck, without the beard.
Here's me with a beard, circa 1977:


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dude awesome! I can't decide who I like more, Herman Bavinck, or John Murray! I have Reformed Dogmatics and the Collected Writings right next to each other on my bookshelf. It's practically idolatry!

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I'm definitely seeing more Bavinck in the 2008 Vic than the 1977 Vic.
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Good catch, grasshopper. you pass the test.

But because he understood creation and providence as the foundation for human experience, he might have felt free to use that language for its existential import. After all, Jesus HIMSELF said,

Now by chance a priest was going down that road..." (Luke 10:31)

Wonder why Jesus felt comfortable talking that way?
This is really interesting to me. I was reading Acts yesterday, and, by chance, came across the same word (in the ESV).

The English word occurs 7 times in the AV, but has two different meanings. Jesus is using the one that many Reformed Christians would consider offensive:

suntuci: occurrence, happening, incident; kata. suntuci,an by chance, by coincidence.

What is great though is that the English Refugees in Geneva were not going to use the term. Look at the extent to which the Geneva Bible goes to avoid using the term:

Nowe so it fell out, that there came downe a certaine Priest that same way, and when he sawe him, he passed by on the other side.
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Good catch, grasshopper. you pass the test.

But because he understood creation and providence as the foundation for human experience, he might have felt free to use that language for its existential import. After all, Jesus HIMSELF said,

Now by chance a priest was going down that road..." (Luke 10:31)

Wonder why Jesus felt comfortable talking that way?
This is really interesting to me. I was reading Acts yesterday, and, by chance, came across the same word (in the ESV).

The English word occurs 7 times in the AV, but has two different meanings. Jesus is using the one that many Reformed Christians would consider offensive:

suntuci: occurrence, happening, incident; kata. suntuci,an by chance, by coincidence.

What is great though is that the English Refugees in Geneva were not going to use the term. Look at the extent to which the Geneva Bible goes to avoid using the term:

Nowe so it fell out, that there came downe a certaine Priest that same way, and when he sawe him, he passed by on the other side.

Yes, I too find this very interesting. I reformed pastor once preached on this text and said we should feel free to talk this way about our life events because the Bible allows for this language.

The difference, he said, was that Christians shouldn't talk about "Chance" the way the Greeks did. Instead, creation and providence are (as I wrote earlier) the foundation of human freedom. So, in that context of the biblical worldview--and not the Greek one-- we can talk about chance.

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