Frame is presuming...and skating on edge... Originally posted by ARStager
I understand what you're saying about the nature of pre-fall communion with God. But Frame's quote:
Why do we need two forms of revelation? For one thing, direct divine speech shortens the "learning curve." Even unfallen Adam needed to hear God's direct speech that supplemented and interpreted God's revelation in nature. He didn't need to figure everything out for himself; in many cases that may have taken a long time or indeed been impossible for the finite mind. So, as God's faithful covenant servant, Adam accepted this help gratefully. He accepted God's interpretation of the world until he made the tragic discision to accept Satan's interpretation instead. _Apologetics to the Glory of God_, p. 22.
...seems to say that not only was special speech (revelation) from God helpful in overcoming the "learning curve" (I get the creator-creature distinction implied here), but also that it may have been NECESSARY, due to the finitude of his mind.
So my question remains: can we say that God's creation doing the speaking for him - in the pre-fall garden - was clear and would have left Adam without excuse for any sins (or comission or omission) he comitted, and left him condemned as one who supressed the truth in unrighteousness? Was pre-fall man, Adam, though finite in mind, able or unable to deduce God's truth without the aid of special revelation?
Maybe I'm off track here. Please correct me. Maybe I'm not even asking the right question. Help!
The Gospel is no where revealed in nature. It is solely in the Scripture. Period.
The catagories are: General (God is Creator) revelation = the natural world; Special (the Gospel) revelation = the Word of God.
If these lines get blurred -- especially due to going further than what Scripture says......
[Edited on 4-19-2005 by Robin]
Christ Reformed Church, Anaheim, CA
Laity, under the care of Pastor, Kim Riddlebarger
Heidelberg, Ursinus, Belgic Confessions; Canons of Dordt