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05-24-2005, 07:40 AM
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goes to church because of the opposite sex
| What? Are you serious? This is the person you speak of main reason for attending services?  |
05-24-2005, 08:07 AM
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Jenson, I get the idea you're fishing for something here. Stop beating about the bush. Say what's on your mind. What is it you really want to know?  |
05-24-2005, 08:08 AM
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If one attends services for this reason in unrepentance, then I would say it is unusual for a Christian who believes in the confessions, yes.
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05-24-2005, 08:42 AM
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Jenson, stop trying to get me kicked off the PB!  
kidding...
Are you asking about whether a worldly lifestyle can be reconciled with subscription to a confession, or whether a worldly lifestyle can be reconciled with membership of this board (which in turn requires subscription to a confession) ??
JH
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Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.
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05-24-2005, 08:47 AM
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Thanks for chiming in Jonathan, I was wondering if he was describing you. I figured because you both live in England that you must know each other. :P (I'm kidding!)
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05-24-2005, 09:12 AM
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We do know each other...
Used to be members of the same church. 
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Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence.
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05-24-2005, 09:26 AM
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Sanctification is progressive, so if I don't want to get kicked off, I'm obligated to say yes they can, or reveal that I'm really a lurking perfectionist!:bigsmile:  :bigsmile:
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05-24-2005, 02:46 PM
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However, I noticed (as many others would) that the newer publications and churches seemed to "break" with the spirituality of the creeds and confessions of days gone by. Hence I gave examples of SOME of the (apparently legitimate) "activities" that are allowed in churches and on the PB.
Nothing else for me to add, just an observation and a query about the need to subscribe to the WCF or BCF in this board...
| Could you be more specific? What activities are you refering to on the PB?
I agree with you assessment that some of Reformed spirituality today is waining into a dead orthodoxy, though I'm not sure they are completely dead yet. I think it is because we have lost our heritage, particularly the Puritan heritage of experimentally applying the truths of God to daily living (and which I think the PB is also trying to recapture). I think that the renewed interest in Puritan literature today among Reformed folk is providing some renewal in this area. I think we won't understand the full effects of it til later though.
[Edited on 5-24-2005 by puritansailor]
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05-24-2005, 04:05 PM
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Yeah...that pesky heavy metal...condeming me to hell, I tell ya.
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I agree with you assessment that some of Reformed spirituality today is waining into a dead orthodoxy, though I'm not sure they are completely dead yet. I think it is because we have lost our heritage, particularly the Puritan heritage of experimentally applying the truths of God to daily living (and which I think the PB is also trying to recapture). I think that the renewed interest in Puritan literature today among Reformed folk is providing some renewal in this area. I think we won't understand the full effects of it til later though.
| I agree with you, Patrick. I think also that this decline in spirituality is due to a lack of meditation, contemplation, thinking on the truths of Scripture, so that they are made alive in the affections of the believer by the Spirit of God.
And communion with the God. I once heard a man say, "communion is what sweetens the doctrines to our souls". For many, Christ is merely a doctrine. Thus, it becomes easy to hide the desires of hell behind a pious form. I have found this to be the case in reformed and non-reformed churches alike, even in my own life. Anyone can regulate what they do, not so easy to regulate what you love.
Greetings to Jenson and Jonathan, my old Tabernacle buddies.
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For you have not come to a mountain that can be touched and to a blazing fire, and to darkness and gloom and whirlwind, and to the blast of a trumpet and the sound of words which sound was such that those who heard begged that no further word be spoken to them. For they could not bear the command, "IF EVEN A BEAST TOUCHES THE MOUNTAIN, IT WILL BE STONED." And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, "I AM FULL OF FEAR and trembling." But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel. Hebrews 12:18-24 |
05-25-2005, 10:16 PM
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I agree with you, Patrick. I think also that this decline in spirituality is due to a lack of meditation, contemplation, thinking on the truths of Scripture, so that they are made alive in the affections of the believer by the Spirit of God.
| Very true. The Puritans wer emasters of this. I fail at this every day.... Oh for more grace!
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