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04-05-2008, 09:03 AM
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| | | Who wants a paedobaptism debate?
The idea of a moderated debate on the subject of infant baptism got mentioned recently... and I had been thinking about the same thing. We have this wonderful Debate Forum, and it seems to be collecting dust... 
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| | | I voted yes; however, there have been valid concerns discussed amongst we Admins and Mods as to why we should yet hold off on it. So ultimately, I defer to those folks' better judgment. |
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Originally Posted by joshua  I voted yes; however, there have been valid concerns discussed amongst we Admins and Mods as to why we should yet hold off on it. So ultimately, I defer to those folks' better judgment. | I think such a debate might be useful at some point - and thus I too voted yes - but... I think we need to hold off for multiple reasons (not least of which is that we have the EP debate starting up, and I dont' think two simultaneously is good, at least as we get the hang of doing this kind of thing here).
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Originally Posted by joshua I voted yes; however, there have been valid concerns discussed amongst we Admins and Mods as to why we should yet hold off on it. | Maybe if it were moderated it wouldn't be a too one-sided (I assume that's the concern). I think the paedos would do just fine. Nothing to worry about.
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| | I say "no" for now. Since the design is for a long term resource once such debates are done, we want to chose the participants very carefully. And believe me, this is a hard thing to set up since you cannot really predict how things will go; and since it is a written debate requiring essay level submissions, it is asking for a good bit of commitment from the participants. 
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Originally Posted by joshua I voted yes; however, there have been valid concerns discussed amongst we Admins and Mods as to why we should yet hold off on it. | Maybe if it were moderated it wouldn't be a too one-sided (I assume that's the concern). I think the paedos would do just fine. Nothing to worry about. |  |
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| | | I voted "Yes" ... I would like to see one when the time is appropriate.
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| | | I voted no. I believe it to be a fruitless effort. Have at it, but I won't participate.
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Originally Posted by Ivan I voted no. I believe it to be a fruitless effort. Have at it, but I won't participate. | Only two will participate. |
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Originally Posted by Ivan I voted no. I believe it to be a fruitless effort. Have at it, but I won't participate. | Personally I'm not interested, but I suppose it is worthwhile for those who've not heard the argument before. Who would be the PB'er that would represent the credos? I think the paedos have plenty of candidates.
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Originally Posted by joshua Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivan I voted no. I believe it to be a fruitless effort. Have at it, but I won't participate. | Only two will participate. | Ah, yes, of course. Well, in the sense that I won't read the thread I won't participate. I've read plenty of threads on the subject. |
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| | 1. It wouldn't necessarily be a PBer.
2. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
3. It will be a formal debate, so in other words: a. Excepting moderators, only 2 people will be involved.
b. No shot gun approaches; rather, well-formed and articulated arguments pertaining to the points at hand
c. Free from the usual clutter that takes up threads on this subject matter.
4. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
5. We're waiting on an EP Debate.
6. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
P.S.-It ain't gonna happen anytime soon. |
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Originally Posted by joshua 1. It wouldn't necessarily be a PBer.
2. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
3. It will be a formal debate, so in other words: a. Excepting moderators, only 2 people will be involved.
b. No shot gun approaches; rather, well-formed and articulated arguments pertaining to the points at hand
c. Free from the usual clutter that takes up threads on this subject matter.
4. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
5. We're waiting on an EP Debate.
6. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
P.S.-It ain't gonna happen anytime soon. | It's going to happen soon, right? |
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Originally Posted by joshua 1. It wouldn't necessarily be a PBer.
2. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
3. It will be a formal debate, so in other words: a. Excepting moderators, only 2 people will be involved.
b. No shot gun approaches; rather, well-formed and articulated arguments pertaining to the points at hand
c. Free from the usual clutter that takes up threads on this subject matter.
4. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
5. We're waiting on an EP Debate.
6. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
P.S.-It ain't gonna happen anytime soon. | So Josh, do you see this debate happening soon? You weren't clear on that. |
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Originally Posted by joshua 1. It wouldn't necessarily be a PBer. | I like that is a great idea. It would be really great if we had two individuals from the "outside". I don't have anyone in mind.
I might be interested in reading something like that. |
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Originally Posted by joshua 2. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
4. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
5. It ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
P.S.-It ain't gonna happen anytime soon. | What are you trying to tell us? |
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| | | Oh yeah, Folks, lest I forget to mention it:
It ain't gonna happen anytime soon. |
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Originally Posted by joshua Oh yeah, Folks, lest I forget to mention it:
It ain't gonna happen anytime soon. | So, next week then! Okay. Got it! 
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Originally Posted by joshua Oh yeah, Folks, lest I forget to mention it:
It ain't gonna happen anytime soon. | So, next week then! Okay. Got it! | Great. What time next week. I want to TIVO it. |
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| | | In light of recent events, it would not be prudent.
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Originally Posted by Presbyterian Deacon Quote:
Originally Posted by joshua Oh yeah, Folks, lest I forget to mention it:
It ain't gonna happen anytime soon. | So, next week then! Okay. Got it! | Great. What time next week. I want to TIVO it. | 
Excellent! I can hardly wait! |
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Originally Posted by joshua Oh yeah, Folks, lest I forget to mention it:
It ain't gonna happen anytime soon. | Doesn't sound like too many want it too, anyway. I know I joined this board over three years ago and I've seen more than my share of baptism debates. Granted, they usually involved more than two people and they haven't been in the format that we're talking about, but the topic still gets ad nauseam at times. And yet I have learned much about the paedo side from the PB for which I am thankful for.
So in light of all this, what time is the debate going to start tonight?
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