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08-19-2007, 09:50 PM
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Children are not a part of the NC... so sad | 
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4 - Baptism is discontinuous from Circumcision. Disciples aren't children (in Gene's mind) thus we don't baptize them. I'd love to ask Gene why Christ had unrenerate men and women baptized.
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08-19-2007, 09:52 PM
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and Paul... (im eating popcorn)
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08-19-2007, 10:03 PM
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Woo! Go Paul!
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Paul is quite good.
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Paul is on fire!
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08-19-2007, 10:09 PM
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Awesome!
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08-19-2007, 10:12 PM
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Nuclear. 10:12 EST
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08-19-2007, 10:19 PM
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I'm sorry I can't listen to this. My little computer with dial-up just isn't capable.
So tell me, should I find a Presbyterian church to attend? Or maybe I'll move to England and become Anglican. Or perhaps with my surname I could pull off Dutch Reformed.
What to do, what to do.....
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08-19-2007, 10:20 PM
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*Stands up and applauds.*
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08-19-2007, 10:20 PM
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To quote Chris Farley: THAT WAS TOTALLY AWESOME! | 
08-19-2007, 10:20 PM
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Boom goes the dynamite. 10:20
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08-19-2007, 10:21 PM
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Got in late. Listening now.
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08-19-2007, 10:26 PM
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Gene just admitted that he doesn't know anybody is saved except himself but yet, argued earlier, that baptism is for the regenerate.
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08-19-2007, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by B.J. Quote:
I don't know what all the excitement is about. Everyone knows that a paedo has never lost a debate about baptism.
Just ask any paedo!
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I suppose Baptist know they lose all of them then, or should I ask a Baptist?  | Hmmm...it seems the Presbyterians already know they won so I wouldn't bother asking.
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08-19-2007, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SemperFideles Gene just admitted that he doesn't know anybody is saved except himself but yet, argued earlier, that baptism is for the regenerate. | I noticed that too. Seems odd for a baptist to admit such a thing as it would be pretty destructive to their theology.
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08-19-2007, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by joshua I love Jason Robertson's (Moderator) accent. Reminds me of me...except mine's worse (but I mean worse in a good way).
"Babtize"
"Babtists" | He is from Louisiana.
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08-19-2007, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Bartel Quote:
Originally Posted by SemperFideles Gene just admitted that he doesn't know anybody is saved except himself but yet, argued earlier, that baptism is for the regenerate. | I noticed that too. Seems odd for a baptist to admit such a thing as it would be pretty destructive to their theology. | I'm neither listening nor a big baptism debater, but how is asserting "baptism is for the regenerate" a problem by admitting that I don't know for sure that everyone baptized is regenerate?
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08-19-2007, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jdlongmire Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff_Bartel Quote:
Originally Posted by SemperFideles Gene just admitted that he doesn't know anybody is saved except himself but yet, argued earlier, that baptism is for the regenerate. | I noticed that too. Seems odd for a baptist to admit such a thing as it would be pretty destructive to their theology. | I'm neither listening nor a big baptism debater, but how is asserting "baptism is for the regenerate" a problem by admitting that I don't know for sure that everyone baptized is regenerate? | If baptism is for the regenerate only, and you don't know who the regenerate are, how are you to know who to baptize?
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08-19-2007, 10:38 PM
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Paul is controlling Gene's cross.
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08-19-2007, 10:39 PM
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Hebrews is not addressed to the Covenant Community? There is "2 covenant communities" for 40 years?
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08-19-2007, 10:39 PM
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He's actually getting Gene to waste time to re-state his position and Paul isn't being forced to defend. Gene is actually on the defensive. Remarkable.
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08-19-2007, 10:39 PM
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I've noticed in Gene's previous debates he doesn't mind turning his crosses into back-and-forths.
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08-19-2007, 10:42 PM
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Gene just allowed Paul to cross him at the very end.
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