Book III 20th Topic Last Things QIII:

"...Chiliasts...must be distinguished. Some more gross, who hold deadly error on the subject of the kingdom of Christ and the resurrection unto it, maintaining that the saints before the last day will be raised up by Christ to an earthly and voluptuous kingdom in which, the Jews having been again introduced into their own land and the Levitical worship restored, all believers throughout the whole world will enjoy for a thousand years all kinds of corporeal pleasures, a multitude of wives, will be blessed and exhilarated with perpetual feasts and entertainments even unto the general resurrection. The first author of this opinion we find to have been Cerinthus, according to Eusebius... and Augustine who, being still imbued with Jewish errors, adopted their opinion concerning the earthly kingdom of Christ, endeavored to propagate it and had many followers."

OK. Given the prevalence of Dispensational Premillenialism being imbibed today, we find here that Turretin had no trouble calling it "deadly error" If this concise description truly fits what is being taught in our churches, and it does, why should we not call it the same in addressing the teacher? I'm not saying it has not been addressed at large, but once again the one who speaks against it directly becomes the villain and is exhorted to "christian charity" because this is just "one of those areas..." NONSENSE

So, then, should the "villain" remain at that local congregation and attempt dialog or remove himself from such?

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Donald P. Grubb
theol46@embarqmail.com

Berean Baptist Church, Mansfield, OH
Mansfield, OH

John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

Personally I think it is great when christians have frank discussions about the scriptures. Some circles tend to invite people to leave if they disagree rather than welcome open discussions. I have found frank discussions very beneficial, and on occasion have had to dive deeper to prove the scripture for myself rather than just repeat the clichés of all the folks that I already agree with.

What is "deadly error"? It sounds really, really, really scary.


Bryan

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Bryan
Deacon, PCA
Tampa, FL

It is almost impossible to discuss eschatology on a decent level with persons who have been brainwashed with this kind of deception. In fact, after being in a dispensational church for several years, and then leaving and receiving good, sound Reformed teaching, it took several more years for my husband and me to clear our brains and thinking of some of these false teachings.

It is "deadly" in that it distracts many from placing their hopes and trust solely in Christ crucified.

Rather, their focus in life becomes hoped-for future events and "escapes," that are not truly biblical.

Much more attention is given to teaching a supposed "rapture" of the church, and an earthly kingdom to come for the Jews, than teaching the accomplishments of Jesus Christ on the cross on behalf of His people.

I never heard about the doctrine of Imputed Righteousness while under this kind of teaching, but suffered hours of being drilled with complicated prophecies and supposed timetables garnered out of the Book of Daniel.

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Ronda Rush
Church of the Redeemer
Independent Reformed
California


" . . .It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.'" Matthew 4:4

Any elaboration on the bold sections of this passage?

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Scott
PCA
North Carolina


"Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised)"
Hebrews 10:23

What I would love to do is read Turretin's quote to the teacher but more than likely it would get me nowhere. I'm not saying the man has not studied but I seriously doubt he has read Turretin. Neither had I until I came to the PB.

Most/many evangelicals today don't look upon differences on the millennium as deadly error, because it's difficult to see how being an historical premil, dispy premil, amil, or postmil would rob you of your salvation.

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Richard
communicant member, FCoS
Perth, Scotland UK

His Name forever shall endure;
last like the sun it shall:
Men shall be blessed in Him,
and blessed all nations shall Him call (Ps. 72:17)