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Old 08-23-2006, 01:52 PM
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Spurgeon on Dispensationalism?

Spurgeon on Dispensationalism? I really could use some help. I'm tired of hearing Spurgeon buoyed as a dispensationalist.

I found a devotional of Spurgeon's that undercuts dispensationalism key to Daniel 9. I would be greatly appreciative of any evidence of his refutation of dispensationalism. I have been told that he attacked embryonic dispensational theology when it began to emerge in his time.
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You may find these helpful (or not):

http://www.spurgeon.org/eschat.htm#ans3

http://members.aol.com/pilgrimpub/chsmillm.htm

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Can't find mine right now, but the place to go is his Commenting and Commentaries. Look up Darby in the index; Spurgeon is absolutely scathing about him.

No way he was a Dispensationalist.
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Can't find mine right now, but the place to go is his Commenting and Commentaries. Look up Darby in the index; Spurgeon is absolutely scathing about him.

No way he was a Dispensationalist.
Indeed, he was not.
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Spurgeon and Eschatology:

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See The Sword and Trowel, 2:287, 5:196, 224 for a sample of Spurgeon's comments on the Brethren. Spurgeon had little use for Darby personally and always had critical comments on his writings. In December 1872 an unsigned article in The Sword in Trowel called Darby's translation of the Bible, "a faulty and pitiable translation of the sacred book." Spurgeon actually only struggled with the "exclusive" or Darbyite faction of the Brethren. He had warm and happy relations with many in the Brethren camp, such as B. W. Newton and George Mueller, a regular companion of Spurgeon in Mentone, France; and an occasional speaker at The Metropolitan Tabernacle.
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The Westminster Confession, Chapter 25, Section VI, declares the pope to the Antichrist, and with this Spurgeon was in complete agreement. See Drummond, Spurgeon: Prince of Preachers, 103-104.
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The Westminster Confession, Chapter 25, Section VI, declares the pope to the Antichrist, and with this Spurgeon was in complete agreement. See Drummond, Spurgeon: Prince of Preachers, 103-104.
I had forgotten that, Andrew. Interesting. I wonder how many Southern Baptists today would consider the Pope the Antichrist?
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The Westminster Confession, Chapter 25, Section VI, declares the pope to the Antichrist, and with this Spurgeon was in complete agreement. See Drummond, Spurgeon: Prince of Preachers, 103-104.
I had forgotten that, Andrew. Interesting. I wonder how many Southern Baptists today would consider the Pope the Antichrist?
A lot less than the number who think John Paul II was a good Christian despite their "disagreements".
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The Westminster Confession, Chapter 25, Section VI, declares the pope to the Antichrist, and with this Spurgeon was in complete agreement. See Drummond, Spurgeon: Prince of Preachers, 103-104.
I had forgotten that, Andrew. Interesting. I wonder how many Southern Baptists today would consider the Pope the Antichrist?
A lot less than the number who think John Paul II was a good Christian despite their "disagreements".
I am not one of them.
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The Westminster Confession, Chapter 25, Section VI, declares the pope to the Antichrist, and with this Spurgeon was in complete agreement. See Drummond, Spurgeon: Prince of Preachers, 103-104.
I had forgotten that, Andrew. Interesting. I wonder how many Southern Baptists today would consider the Pope the Antichrist?
I wouldn't (and I'm not even Southern Baptist). The Pope may be the false prophet (and he may not), but he will not be the Antichrist. Hey...the position of the Pope is losing credibility in this world is it not? I can't see the whole world turning around and worshipping the Pope.

Didn't the early reformers consider the Pope the Antichrist because they didn't like him? I mean, the Pope was a jerk was he not?
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Oops, back on topic. Does it really matter if Spurgeon was a dispensationalist or not? Does it really matter if we are today? I think what's more important is whether or not we are Christians.

Off my soapbox...
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Brian,
Things do have a certain degree of importance. It is more important that a man confess Christ as the only Lord and savior of men than that he have his theology right when it comes to dispensational/ covenant theology. Nevertheless, this is a topic that interests theologians. It is a topic that interests Baptist Christians, especially Southern Baptist Christians who are preparing for tumultuous years ahead in their denomination over the issue of "Calvinism." And after all, this is in the "Dispensationalism" part of the forum. :-D
So you're right, it is more important whether or not we are Christians. But it doesn't diminish the specific importance and interest of the particular question that was posed.

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Spurgeon appears to have been covenantal, at least to a certain degree. If you do a search of the CoW or CoG you can find some good quotes.

He was premillennial though. And he definitely saw a future for ethnic Israel. That's probably why some would think he was dispensational.
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Well, I see a future for Jews of faith too; but it doesn't make me dispensational.
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