Thread: The Late Great Planet Church: the Rise of Dispensationalism

Late Great Planet Church: The Rise of Dispensationalism (DVD) Late Great Planet Church [] - $24.95 : The Nicene Council, Online Store

Has anyone seen this movie?

Seems to have quite the cast of Theologians in it.

Kenneth L. Gentry, Jr., Th.D. Gary DeMar, Ph.D.
George Joseph Gatis, Ph.D., Th.D., J.D. Tom Ascol, Ph.D.
Kenneth G. Talbot, Ph.D., Th.D. Tom Nettles, Ph.D.
R. Fowler White, Ph.D. E. Calvin Beisner, Ph.D.
Rev. Michael Leach, M.Div. David Lutzweiler, B.A. Theo.

Anyways I have some dispy friends and while I cant get them to read a book, I think I could easily get them to watch a movie.

yes this would be a good video to let them watch. but it is very long, so theres a chance they might not watch it all.

No economic dominionism form Gary North ?

Does it offer the historical approach as opposed to Dispensationalism or does it simply outline the problems and wacky history of dispensationalism?

Hopefully, if it's wisely done, it'll just plainly show that the Dispensational way of looking at the Bible is wrong, and has a history which shows it to be wrong from the time of Darby on, and that the previously long established Covenantal system is correct; it won't go into more elaborate theories like theonomy, or Gary North's ideas, postmil/amil/premil, preterist/historicist/futurist, etc, etc.

Is that like their DVD on Calvinism? If so, it's probably pretty long, with flashy special effects. I can't say anything further though as I haven't seen it.

Tim Challies reviewed it back in December June or July. He said it is part one of two, the second of which is not out yet. This DVD deals primarily with the history of dispensationalism, and so deals primarily with classical dispensationalism and how it arose, rather than the Scriptural arguments involved.

I liked Amazing Grace more. However, it is well done. The second part will be MORE useful with dispensational friends. However, this was worth watching. See it first, then decide if your particular friends could benefit from it.

The issue I have with most dispensationalists is that they have been taught so strongly that the Jews and the Church are two different peoples of God that to even consider that not being the case is a horrid offense against God.

For example, my mother will not listen to ANYTHING by anyone that isn't dispensational. I wanted her to read an article by Ken Gentry on alcohol and she said "Is he one of those that think the Church and Israel are one in the same?" I told her it didn't matter as this had nothing to do with eschatology. It didn't matter she will have NOTHING to do with anyone who doesn't agree with dispensationalism. I've even told her that soteriology is the number one issue when looking for a good Church and while she agreed, she said dispensationalism was a very close second! She feels the same way about being "pre trib" (rapture timing) if a pastor is dispy but mid or post trib in his rapture timing belief she will listen to nothing he has to say.

John MacArthur is the only common ground we have, Paul Washer too, so far, since he's not expressed is end times stance.

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So I take it this should be moved to the dispensationalism board...

Originally Posted by Joshua

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Please explain what is wrong with this post. I have read you ReMinder and am still confused.

wrong forum, theological discussions shouldn't be in the "general" forum

Didnt consider my question about how good a documentary was to belong to the dispy thread is why I didnt put it here first, I should have forseen the types of answers I would receive especially given the last statement in my OP. Thank you for moving it to a more suitable thread so as not to offend or disrupt.

John MacArthur is the only common ground we have, Paul Washer too, so far, since he's not expressed is end times stance.

I think I heard him state his eschatology in a sermon a few years ago but I do not remember well enough to say for sure. Anyways unless it was dispensational it wouldn't be profitable for you to know. Just don't give her a sermon where he speaks on Ezekiel 37 and says it describes regeneration, Ive seen dispys go nuts over less than that.

I bought it the other day. I am going to show it to my youth group: let you know how that goes!

I personally would wait for Volume 2 to come out to show to my dispy friends. The first volume is more about the history of the movement but not the Theology. In a phrase, "It will not break a hardened Dispy".

CT

You'd think knowing/seeing that your favoured approach to interpreting certain aspects of Scripture only got going around 1830 under a small number of men, would help some people to think again ?