Thread: Barnhouse The Dispensationalist?

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I have been listening to Dr. Barnhouse at lunch everyday at home. Today was a message on the second coming. I almost choked on my food. Pre-trib rapture, 7 year trib, zionism, daniels 70th week, the whole ball of wax. How could 10th Presbyterian Church have put up with this? Help me my Presbyterian brethren.

Tenth of Phildelphia was not always a PCA church historically. I am not sure of its history, so I cannot comment definitely on the historical background of this congregation prior to the advent of the PCA.

Dr. Barnhouse had a background in the Presbyterian Church in the United States of America (the liberal mainline). He was moderator of the General Assembly in 1928.

There were many "conservative" congregations in the denomination. Some of these congregations would have accepted what he taught.

I listened to alot of his stuff at lunch. I enjoy hearing the guy teach. I just can't believe a man that sound in the faith could fall for doctrine like that.

JAmes,

Barnhouse began his ministry as a dispensationalist, like many of the Fundamentalists in the old PCUSA and the PCUS (the Southern church). By the late 1950's, he repudiated dispensationalism, though he remained a premillennialist. He was a great man with some pretty marked flaws.

Tenth in Philly could not have been PCA under his tenure because the PCA did not exist until some years after Barnhouse's death. It came into the PCA under his assistant then successor Jim Boice, also a non-dispensational premillenialist.

Originally Posted by KenPierce

JAmes,

Barnhouse began his ministry as a dispensationalist, like many of the Fundamentalists in the old PCUSA and the PCUS (the Southern church). By the late 1950's, he repudiated dispensationalism, though he remained a premillennialist. He was a great man with some pretty marked flaws.

Tenth in Philly could not have been PCA under his tenure because the PCA did not exist until some years after Barnhouse's death. It came into the PCA under his assistant then successor Jim Boice, also a non-dispensational premillenialist.

Thank you brother Ken for clearing that up for me. I was going to go to the Liquor store because of this . I can live with a historic pre-mill man if I have too Now that I know he repudiated it I will go back to listening to him.

Originally Posted by KenPierce

JAmes,

Barnhouse began his ministry as a dispensationalist, like many of the Fundamentalists in the old PCUSA and the PCUS (the Southern church). By the late 1950's, he repudiated dispensationalism, though he remained a premillennialist. He was a great man with some pretty marked flaws.

Tenth in Philly could not have been PCA under his tenure because the PCA did not exist until some years after Barnhouse's death. It came into the PCA under his assistant then successor Jim Boice, also a non-dispensational premillenialist.

Ken,

Was Tenth a PCUSA or possibly UPCNA at one time? Do you know?

I believe it was PCUSA, but don't quote me on that. I know that the UPC was generally the more conservative of the two Northern bodies, though progressive enough to unite with the PCUSA in the 50's. Some church historian care to weigh in?

Originally Posted by KenPierce

I believe it was PCUSA, but don't quote me on that. I know that the UPC was generally the more conservative of the two Northern bodies, though progressive enough to unite with the PCUSA in the 50's. Some church historian care to weigh in?

I can tell you that the UPCNA united with the PCUSA in 1958 and the new body became the UPCUSA.

Right. I have some experience with this. In some Western PA towns, there are PCUSA churches right across from one another: one was the First UPC, and the other the First PCUSA.

Barnhouse was PCUSA, as was Machen, C E Macartney, etc etc. Barnhouse and Macartney stayed. We know what happened to Machen!

James M. Boice was a Covenant Theologian, but had a dispensational eschatology, i.e. 70th week pre-trib. rapture, restoration of ethnic Israel, and premillennialism. I assume Barnhouse, his predecessor, had the same view. I would assume that Boice and Barnhouse would draw a distinction between a dispensational eschatology and being a dispensationalist.

I thought Boice was Historic Premil?

I read somewhere that Boice was dispensational early on but abandoned it for historic premil later.