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View Poll Results: What Seminary "Produces" the best Preachers? | |
Bethel
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Calvin
|    | 2 | 3.33% | |
DTS
|    | 1 | 1.67% | |
Fuller
|    | 1 | 1.67% | |
Gordon-Conwell
|    | 2 | 3.33% | |
Greenville
|    | 9 | 15.00% | |
Knox
|    | 1 | 1.67% | |
Mid-America Reformed
|    | 3 | 5.00% | |
New Orleans Baptist
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Princeton
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RPTS
|    | 3 | 5.00% | |
RTS Charlotte
|    | 2 | 3.33% | |
RTS Jackson
|    | 7 | 11.67% | |
RTS Orlando
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SBTS
|    | 7 | 11.67% | |
Talbot
|    | 1 | 1.67% | |
TEDS
|    | 1 | 1.67% | |
Westminster (PA)
|    | 13 | 21.67% | |
Westminster (TX)
|    | 1 | 1.67% | |
Westminster (CA)
|    | 5 | 8.33% |
Other [Roman Catholic, Mormon, etc. ]
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| | | What Seminary 'Produces' the Best Preachers? Given the fact that God gifts His People the way He so desires, and it is the seminary who teaches and guides how and what a person will preach, which seminary (to the best of your knowledge) best prepares and 'produces' (if I could use that term) the best preachers?
Remember,
I am not saying which one you went to or which is the best BAPTIST or PRESBYTERIAN seminary.
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| | | You forgot my alma mater, Puritan Reformed Theological Seminary! | 
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| | | One of my favorite preachers, John Weaver, went to BJU.
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| | | Sorry, I knew I was going to forget some seminaries. I was having too much fun putting in "Talbot" and such. | 
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| | | I went to SBTS... so...
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| | | I voted for SBTS. How could I not?
You had New Orleans, but not Southwestern. At one time I would have said Southwestern 'produced' the best preachers in the SBC, but I'd give the nod to Southern now.
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| | | Where's Mid-America? | 
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Originally Posted by greenbaggins Where's Mid-America? | Mid-America Reformed? It's there.
Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary. You don't want it there. | 
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| | | I voted for WTS-PA only because I know more men who went there. And most of them were good preachers.
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Originally Posted by KMK One of my favorite preachers, John Weaver, went to BJU. | Brother, an interesting story.
I invited Bro. Weaver to preach at our PCA church in GA a few years ago. I invited one of his former (BJU) profs, who was at that time teaching at Temple Baptist. The prof told me when I stopped by his office to invite him (I had taken a few classes from him myself) that he had taught 10,000 students over the years! He said that no one he had ever taught, or even heard of, knew the scriptures as well as Pastor Weaver!
If you have ever heard Bro. Weaver preach, you know what he meant. | 
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Originally Posted by greenbaggins Where's Mid-America? | Mid-America Reformed? It's there.
Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary. You don't want it there. | I'm pretty sure this is in Memphis across from Bellevue. Am I wrong?
I keep hoping there are closet Calvinists there in case I ever want to take some classes from the evil Baptists one day. I would be hoping past hope then, wouldn't I? Or would I?
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I didn't say which one you went to or which is the best BAPTIST seminary. | 
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| | Nobody's chosen Dallas Theological Seminary yet? 
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| | | I think WSC has helped equip some great preachers. I can think of many off the top of my head. However, I bet there are probably 5 people in the whole country who are qualified to answer this question. And, I'm not one. | | The Following User Says Thank You to ReadBavinck For This Useful Post: | | 
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| | I don't think Seminaries make/produce preachers. And given the artificial setting in which they attempt to teach homiletics in the classroom setting, I'm not convinced that they are able to prepare students for the pulpit ministry from the standpoint of homiletical studies.
This is not an argument against seminaries, nor should it be construed that I don't like or support them. On the contrary, I think that many of them do a great job of giving men a theological education. I have many delightful memories, and learned many invaluable lessons that I would not have learned otherwise. But I do not think they produce preachers.
I guess I think too much like D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones in this respect... Quote: |
What about preaching as such, the act of preaching of which I have spoken? There is only one thing to say about this; it cannot be taught. That is impossible. Preachers are born, not made. This is an absolute. You will never teach a man to be a preacher if he is not already one. All your books such as The A.B.C. of Preaching, or Preaching Made Easy should be thrown in to the fire as soon as possible. But if a man is a born preacher you can help him a little—but not much. He can perhaps be improved a little here and there. Preaching and Preachers, p. 119.
| Now, unlike Lloyd-Jones, I do think that "a born preacher" can improve greatly, especially as he grows and matures, but I do not believe that seminaries produce good preachers.
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| | This is why I said, "Produces". Quote:
Originally Posted by DTK I don't think Seminaries make/produce preachers. And given the artificial setting in which they attempt to teach homiletics in the classroom setting, I'm not convinced that they are able to prepare students for the pulpit ministry from the standpoint of homiletical studies.
This is not an argument against seminaries, nor should it be construed that I don't like or support them. On the contrary, I think that many of them do a great job of giving men a theological education. I have many delightful memories, and learned many invaluable lessons that I would not have learned otherwise. But I do not think they produce preachers.
I guess I think too much like D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones in this respect... Quote: |
What about preaching as such, the act of preaching of which I have spoken? There is only one thing to say about this; it cannot be taught. That is impossible. Preachers are born, not made. This is an absolute. You will never teach a man to be a preacher if he is not already one. All your books such as The A.B.C. of Preaching, or Preaching Made Easy should be thrown in to the fire as soon as possible. But if a man is a born preacher you can help him a little—but not much. He can perhaps be improved a little here and there. Preaching and Preachers, p. 119.
| Now, unlike Lloyd-Jones, I do think that "a born preacher" can improve greatly, especially as he grows and matures, but I do not believe that seminaries produce good preachers.
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| | | Yes, I know. That's why I said "produce/produces."
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