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Could you explain how participating is the same as perpetuating?
| That can't be a serious question. How is participating in anything not perpetuating that thing? |
Was Daniel guilty of sin because he 'perpetuated' Babylonian rule over his people by 'participating' in the Babylonian government?
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The Christians never should have allowed mandatory public education. If we are going to continue to allow the state to mandate public education, then I think we should try to influence it for the better.
| You agree that mandatory public education is wrong. You probably believe, rightly, that pornography is wrong. Should Christians participate in pornography so as to "influence it for the better"? The reasoning seems a little confusing. |
We live in a confusing world. Everything is not always so black and white as you imply. I understand your 'groaning' for the full redemption of God's creation, but we are in the world not of it. It would be impossible to have any job at all if you refused to work for something that is not the biblical ideal.
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Originally Posted by Brad If mandatory public education is wrong, why would we want to change it? A pig in a prettier dress is still a pig. Seems the logical thing to do is get rid of it, not dance with it. |
If you want to get rid of it then do so. While I am waiting for that I will try to make the best of a bad situation.
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You said..."So why would Christians want to be a partner with the gov't in doing what you agree it should not be doing? Because they pay well and have good benefits or what?"
From the sound of those words you are condemning all Christian teachers of making a living through "filthy lucre".
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Originally Posted by Brad I have pointed out plainly the incongruency of agreeing a thing is wrong to even exist and yet participating in it. |
I agree that it might be 'incongruous', but I shy from calling it a sin. Once again, some might say it is 'incongruous' that I pay my property taxes even though I do not believe the state has the biblical right to tax what the Lord has given me. It might have been 'incongrous' for Jesus to get money out of a fish's mouth to pay a tax, but He did it anyway. We live in an 'incongruous' world.
Here in LA there was an interesting news story recently. A homeowner was told that some trees on his property were in violation of some code so he cut them down. Then he was told that those trees that he cut down were of a special variety and it was against code to cut them down. He was fined!
It is definitely an imperfect world.
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Originally Posted by Brad Oh, yes, I believe that the vast majority of them are, but I derive that from personal experience, so I digress, and will reword my statement thus; It's fine to teach other people's kids in that setting but not your own? |
I can't argue with someone who claims they know who is elect and who is not.
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It has been my experience, I am sure it is not the case with your many friends, that teachers are allowed to teach a Christian worldview as long as they are not ornery about it. The public school is made out to be this three headed monster that will gobble up any teacher who refuses to teach same sex marraige. But in actuality it is a giant slug with no teeth. No one cares what you teach those kids as long as the parents don't complain and your test scores don't get lower.
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From The US Dept of Education - Teachers and school administrators, when acting in those capacities, are representatives of the state, and, in those capacities, are themselves prohibited from encouraging or soliciting student religious or anti-religious activity.
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Let me clarify again...If you are a Christian teacher and your conscience tells you that it would be a sin to teach truth in public school, then definitely do not go into public education.
But, what you have quoted is education code, not law. A public school teacher who teaches Islam, for example, to his students is not guilty of a crime. And, I never said anything about 'encouraging' or 'soliciting' students, but simply teaching the truth.
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