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Old 02-09-2008, 09:56 PM
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Dr. Morey has been around a long time. He has done some good work on cults and similar issues. I hope I'm wrong, but judging from his style I have a hard time seeing him in the role of peacemaker.
Yes, I am familiar with some of his books, but that is all I know. He did some things with James Kennedy years ago in the area of Coral Ridge Media. I don't know anything, but I would suspect he preached at Coral Ridge recently or is scheduled to preach. I do not think he is in any consultation with Coral Ridge, other than the tv. and radio ministry, which is struggling. He is Southern Baptist, so I do not think he would be qualified to do much with Coral Ridge.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:33 PM
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Dr. Morey has been around a long time. He has done some good work on cults and similar issues. I hope I'm wrong, but judging from his style I have a hard time seeing him in the role of peacemaker.
I found some pretty nasty stuff written about Dr. Morey, but this was from the liberal press and pro-Islam types. Anyone who speaks publicly and truthfully about Islam is bound to get hit hard. Some of the accusations boarder on slander. Dr. Morey's wikipedia page is very negative, and seems to be based primarily on the negative article in an Orange Co. newspaper. Someone familiar with Dr. Morey's work should edit the article on wikipedia - especially to respond to claims reported such as he claims to be a consultant for the FBI on Islamic terrorist's in the US, and his claim that terrorist have three nuclear weapons in the US. Are there true claims made by Dr. Morey?

Dr. Morey's credentials sound too good to be true - especially his personally working with/under Van Til, Clark, Schaeffer, etc.. Could someone flesh that out? When, where, what was the outcome?

I'd also like to know what denomination his church belongs to.
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:59 AM
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Dr. Morey has been around a long time. He has done some good work on cults and similar issues. I hope I'm wrong, but judging from his style I have a hard time seeing him in the role of peacemaker.
I found some pretty nasty stuff written about Dr. Morey, but this was from the liberal press and pro-Islam types. Anyone who speaks publicly and truthfully about Islam is bound to get hit hard. Some of the accusations boarder on slander. Dr. Morey's wikipedia page is very negative, and seems to be based primarily on the negative article in an Orange Co. newspaper. Someone familiar with Dr. Morey's work should edit the article on wikipedia - especially to respond to claims reported such as he claims to be a consultant for the FBI on Islamic terrorist's in the US, and his claim that terrorist have three nuclear weapons in the US. Are there true claims made by Dr. Morey?

Dr. Morey's credentials sound too good to be true - especially his personally working with/under Van Til, Clark, Schaeffer, etc.. Could someone flesh that out? When, where, what was the outcome?

I'd also like to know what denomination his church belongs to.
He is a Baptist. Some in this thread say Southern Baptist. He went to WTS, so studied under CVT there. Going to L'Abri would qualify as "studied under Schaeffer." Not sure where he would have studied under Clark.
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Someone familiar with Dr. Morey's work should edit the article on wikipedia
I have tried to do this several times, but it gets edited back. Too frustrating to keep up with, the Muslims are monitoring it quite closely.

The SBC ties are with the church plant he started in Irvine, CA. But he is Baptist-ic.

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Not sure where he would have studied under Clark.
I think this took place in Dr. Clark's living room, from what I remember.

His book "Studies in the Atonement" is, to me, the most valuable contribution to contemporary theology in at least the last half-century. Dr. John Frame loves it so much that it inspired much of his work on the Ordo. Dr. Roger Nicole called it a "soundly Reformed perspective" and also commended Morey's groundbreaking chapter on the Ordo Salutis. In fact, when Frame was at WTS, he used to have Morey stand in for him. But since he self-publishes and has zero marketing, he is confined within a very small circle.

He also has a B.A. in philosophy from Covenant College besides the MDiv and DMin from WTS. A funny story, D.A. Carson said he and Morey are two of probably five exegetical theologians left - in the world! What a statement. Anyhow, I hope I addressed the curiosity.
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Dr. Morey has been around a long time. He has done some good work on cults and similar issues. I hope I'm wrong, but judging from his style I have a hard time seeing him in the role of peacemaker.
I found some pretty nasty stuff written about Dr. Morey, but this was from the liberal press and pro-Islam types. Anyone who speaks publicly and truthfully about Islam is bound to get hit hard. Some of the accusations boarder on slander. Dr. Morey's wikipedia page is very negative, and seems to be based primarily on the negative article in an Orange Co. newspaper. Someone familiar with Dr. Morey's work should edit the article on wikipedia - especially to respond to claims reported such as he claims to be a consultant for the FBI on Islamic terrorist's in the US, and his claim that terrorist have three nuclear weapons in the US. Are there true claims made by Dr. Morey?

Dr. Morey's credentials sound too good to be true - especially his personally working with/under Van Til, Clark, Schaeffer, etc.. Could someone flesh that out? When, where, what was the outcome?

I'd also like to know what denomination his church belongs to.
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Old 02-11-2008, 09:31 AM
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Dr. Robert Morey ministry info. can be found at Welcome to Faith Defenders

His book on the Trinity is also very good.
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:50 AM
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The Paradox of Knox Seminary

This may be a little off subject, but not by much.

Obviously, Knox Seminary is named after John Knox, the great Scottish Presbyterian and reformer - the one whom Mary Queen of Scots said that she feared his prayers more than an army of 10,000 men.

I wonder how many faculty, staff, or students of Knox really knew what John Knox believed - and if they believe what he believed. My guess is no. I seriously doubt they they would even adher to half of what Knox believed. I always wondered if Dr. Kennedy really knew what Knox believed - especially regarding psalms in worship or the use of instruments - things Knox did not consider minor, quibble points.

I think if Knox were to have walked into Coral Ridge and seen the massive pipe organ, he would have immediately turned and fled. But that is just my reading of Knox, which is by no means exhaustive.

So, bottom line, it is sad to see this problem at Knox - but when you discard sections of the WCF and you start down the slippery slope, then sometimes reaching bottom is not far off.
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:03 AM
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I would think that Knox, although they may have issues, is a long way from the bottom yet.
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