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Here is an article from the Grand Rapids Press. Calvin College and the CRC just keep slipping and slipping.

Calvin College Faculty Senate asks college to drop order on teaching about homosexuality and same-sex marriage | Grand Rapids News - - MLive.com
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And following this theme, the student newspaper just put this out:

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Here is an article from the Grand Rapids Press. Calvin College and the CRC just keep slipping and slipping.

Calvin College Faculty Senate asks college to drop order on teaching about homosexuality and same-sex marriage | Grand Rapids News - - MLive.com
Isn't Dr. Maag still the director of the Meeter Calvin Center?
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And following this theme, the student newspaper just put this out:

Chimes: Top 10 perks of being gay (and out) at Calvin
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Here is an article from the Grand Rapids Press. Calvin College and the CRC just keep slipping and slipping.

Calvin College Faculty Senate asks college to drop order on teaching about homosexuality and same-sex marriage | Grand Rapids News - - MLive.com
Isn't Dr. Maag still the director of the Meeter Calvin Center?
Yes.. and a very gifted scholar as well. Too bad.
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Calvin would be embarrassed to have his name assosiated with this school
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Why do they even pick to go there? Do you think their parents pushed them to or what? Can't they find a fine academic liberal arts school to go be gay in? Or is it a deliberate attempt to bring "reform" to their narrow minded homophobic denomination?
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I need clarification...

Are you saddened by the Board of Trustees' memo that the school follow the CRC's position on homosexuality, or are you saddened by the faculty asking for withdrawal of the memo?
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I believe what he was saddened by was that a Christian liberal arts college with such a reputation for high academic standards would find itself tolerating/promoting unbiblical positions on human sexuality.

Don't look now, boys (and girls), but many of the leading broadly evangelical Christian colleges are wrestling with the same issues just now.

1. Most faculty of the better Christian liberal arts schools receive their terminal degrees in secular institutions where the culture is STRONGLY pro-gay. Even if they "disagree" on the issue theologically/biblically, they will likely have a more accommodating position on it personally and attitudinally.

2. The socialization process of education in this country has made a few issues sacrosanct. For example, when I was a boy racial bigotry was institutionalized and accepted in some quarters (wrongly, or course). Now, even an accusation of racism can cost you a chance at limited ownership in an NFL team. [I agree that racism is sinful and am simply observing how quickly a sea change took place from "acceptable" to abhorrent.] Gay "rights" is rapidly becoming that kind of an issue in our society. Even now, comments of a thoughtfully biblical and theological nature are roundly condemned as "homophobic" by large portions of the media, the academy, and the world of politics. Look at the comments by POTUS at the recent gay dinner. If it were simple "pandering" to an interest group, that would be one thing. But, as a product of late 20th century America, I'm sure that Mr. Obama believes what he said and that his views reflect the prevailing attitudes of most of his colleagues in public service (BTW - this is NOT a political comment/invitation to dialog about dems and reps, it is an observation about the present state of the American culture vis a vis gay issues).

3. I was on the Calvin campus last fall and picked up some of the same vibes while on the campus. Not only is the sponsoring body exerperiencing some culture shock on this issue, the campus certainly reflects it. Having just gone through the process of college searching with my fifth child, it is my impression that many of the "name" schools among broad evangelicalism are dealing with the same phenomenon now. Calvin is neither unique nor particularly further down the road than some of the others. What makes Calvin notable is that it has a sponsoring body to which it feels some measure of continuing obligation (CRC). Therefore, debates at Calvin get more publicity than they would at one of the "independent," "interdenominational," or "non-denominational" Christian colleges.

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And following this theme, the student newspaper just put this out:

Chimes: Top 10 perks of being gay (and out) at Calvin
It's kind of funny. I think the number one reason is particularly interesting. But I don't want to
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I spent a year at Calvin a little more then thirty years ago. I came away with profound doubts about the direction Calvin and the CRC were heading. The trajectory towards rank liberalism, dressed up in Christian clothes, has been there for at least that many years.
Our Protestant Reformed friends will blame it all on the CRC doctrine of common grace. I used to dismiss that; but now I am not so sure but what they are right.
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I just thank God that Covenant College and the PCA have not gone down this path. May God preserve us all because there, but for His grace, go we.
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The faculty's petitioning to withdraw the memo. I have a book by Meeter on Calvinism from the 50's. Well done, in my humble estimation. He is, I am sure, spinning in his grave, among other fine scholars of years past.

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They are gay. They are CRC. Calvin is the choice. Dordt is in the middle of a bunch of corn fields. A distant second.
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What say ye to this? Homosexual orientation is not a sin?!?
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That is part of the thin edge of the wedge that for now gives rise to questioning the sinfulness of homosexual orientation but will later remove any idea of original sin.
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The faculty's petitioning to withdraw the memo. I have a book by Meeter on Calvinism from the 50's. Well done, in my humble estimation. He is, I am sure, spinning in his grave, among other fine scholars of years past.

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They are gay. They are CRC. Calvin is the choice. Dordt is in the middle of a bunch of corn fields. A distant second.
The whole family went to Calvin and they want to follow tradition. And Dordt is not half an hour from Saugatuck aka the San Francisco of the Midwest.
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I had no idea about Saugatuck. Wow.
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